Re: What do you think ?: How should pseundo terminals behave ...

On Sep 26, 2006, at 13:29 , Magnus Ringman wrote:

> On 9/26/06, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH <allbery_at_ece.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> 3a) Hangup all processes attached to the client and switch them to
>> some kind of "dead" inode (which could be a fixed entity since all
>> operations on it except close() fail).  (Don't real ttys do this?)
>
> -1.
> Yes and no.  ttys do that on an actual hangup (when a hardware hangup
> happens), however PTYs are intended to allow emulating the full
> terminal line semantics, including hangup.  Imo the case of "pty
> master side disappearing" is equivalent to "backing device (hardware)
> no longer exists", not "remote end hung up".

I think that in many circumstances (and, as you note, implemented in  
other OSes), the correct behavior *is* to treat hangup as "backing  
device no longer exists" --- an older session should not leak into a  
newer one, it is a potential security hole and certainly a potential  
source of confusion.  And if hardware ttys do it, I should think  
virtual ones should also do so for consistency.

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electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university    KF8NH