Re: Re: why support alpha??

From: <eqe-support_at_cox.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:11:13 -0500
thx, now I get it. there is a lot more to it than I thought.

> 
> From: Bernd Walter <ticso_at_cicely12.cicely.de>
> Date: 2003/12/10 Wed PM 09:31:32 EST
> To: eqe_at_cox.net
> CC: freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: why support alpha??
> 
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:53:55PM -0500, eqe_at_cox.net wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 08:47, you wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 04:54:13AM -0500, eqe_at_cox.net wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 00:44, you wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:43:02PM -0500, eqe_at_cox.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you have a point here but I never said alpha hackers are working in
> > > > vain. I merely tryed to imply that their efforts could better serve the
> > > > freebsd community by concentrating our efforts on just platforms that are
> > > > more mainstream in the server market. I personally would stop dev. on
> > > > anything
> > >
> > > If you want mainstream go Windows.
> > you must be joking, but if not you have missed the point, read again.
> 
> It's exactly what you said about architecture about OS in exactly the same
> hard words - just that you don't understand the architecture part.
> In the same way you don't want a mainstream OS I don't want a mainstream
> architecture.
> 
> alpha is the only 64 bit platform supported by FreeBSD-stable right
> now - so it's the only supported 64 bit platform with production
> quality.
> If your application requires 64 bit then you have to take the risk
> of -current or buy an alpha - but applications that realy require
> 64 bit are almost always incompatible with risks.
> Hardware is bought with the intend to use it for several years - more
> time than 4.x will give.
> 
> You can call alpha dead as long as you like, but I can tell you for
> shure that almost all alpha hardware that is build today will life
> much longer than most x86 hardware build today.
> Why think about optimzing for a current x86 CPU when you already know
> that you can't buy them next month?
> 
> You also shouldn't forget that most of must development is in fact
> development about 64bitness, strong alignemnt and so on.
> Everything of them is required for other 64bit platforms as well.
> You don't want to be limited by 32bit x86 systems for ages right?
> For the same reasons I'm very happy about recent sparc64 progress
> because it has put a lot more developers on the 64bit table.
> 
> -- 
> B.Walter                   BWCT                http://www.bwct.de
> ticso_at_bwct.de                                  info_at_bwct.de
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