At 12:21 AM -0500 11/16/03, Jeff Roberson wrote: >On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > Or maybe the real problem is that we claim that there will > > be no API/ABI changes after X.0-RELEASE, and we've really >> missed that mark with 5.0-RELEASE, for a variety of reasons. >> If we're going to keep missing that mark with the 6.x-series, >> then we should plan to do something to make life a little > > less painful. > >The API and ABI are frozen when we make 5.x-STABLE and >branch 6.x. Until then it's open to change. This was >decided up front. Hmm, Yes it was. I was mixing up the time of X.0-RELEASE and making the branch for <X+1>-current. Good point. Please note that I'm not unhappy with any of these changes. I think they're all very good to get in. But we do have hundreds of developers trying to track -current, and I think we'd get some productivity boost whenever we can make these changes a little smoother. As I mentioned earlier, it's only going to get worse as we have more developers trying to contribute. Developers that we *do* want to be tracking -current... <aside> And to mention just one change that I'm particularly happy with, the change so a single kernel works on both SMP and single-processor systems has already saved me some grief. My hardware problems were (temporarily) solved by replacing my dual-CPU board with a single-CPU one. I'd be in even more pain today if it wasn't for that change! I still haven't figured out what I'll do with the 4.9-stable system on this machine... [disclaimer: today has been a long day for me, all spent rebuilding freebsd systems from this hardware headache. I just now finished successfully upgrading the last 5.x system I have (it just booted up as I am typing this). So don't mind me too much...] </aside> -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad_at_gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad_at_freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih_at_rpi.eduReceived on Sat Nov 15 2003 - 22:39:47 UTC
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