> On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 10:37:03PM -0700, Bill Paul wrote: > > ... > > " But all Windows 802.11 drivers all pretend to be 802.3 link layer drivers, > because Windows doesn't have any 802.11 protocol support. " > ... > > Could you please elaborate on this comment a bit more ? > > - aW > It's pretty self-explanatory. All existing 802.11a/b/g wireless drivers for Windows pretend to be ethernet drivers. When a protocol driver sends a frame to a wireless NDIS driver, it sends it in the form of an ethernet frame. Likewise, when a protocol driver receives a frame from a wireless NDIS driver, it's also in the form of an ethernet frame. Up until the NDIS 5.1 spec, the only way to set any of the wireless parameters such as SSID, BSS/IBSS mode, WEP keys, and so forth, was via vendor-specified registry keys or vendor-specific OIDs (which often required vendor-supplied utilities to configure). Now that wireless has taken off, Microsoft has added some extensions to NDIS (in the form of additional OIDs) to configure these parameters in a more generic fashion, mainly to make Windows Zero Configuration work with wireless devices. Most drivers that I've seen have a combination of standard 802.11 OIDs (see /sys/compat/ndis/ndis_var.h for a list -- grep for OID_802_11) to make WZC happy, vendor-specific OIDs to provide knobs for special features that Windows just doesn't handle (enabling/disabling turbo modes, handling LEAP authentication) and custom registry keys that can be set by navigating your way through the System control panel. A lot of the custom stuff is necessary because the vendors keep jumping ahead of the standards: by the time Microsoft updates NDIS to support a new set of standards, the updates are already obsolete. (Plus, sometimes Microsoft does stupid things: although many cards are capable of supporting much more than the 8 rates specified in the original 802.11 spec, the OID_802_11_SUPPORTED_RATES OID is still specified to only return an array of 8 values.) If you want to do special things like sniff raw wireless frames (including beacon frames and control frames) or pretend to be an AP, then you need the ability to send and receive 802.11 frames -- but these frames will have 802.11 headers on them, which none of the existing protocol drivers in Windows know how to process. When you ask a wireless NDIS driver what media it supports, it will tell you "NdisMedium802_3." Some vendor drivers may have custom mechanisms for handling raw 802.11 frames, but there's no standardization between vendors, and any behind-the-scenes tricks they use are probably considered proprietary (which means you'll never get any of them to talk about it). Is this dumb? Yes. But consumers don't know the difference: as long as they can wirelessly download their porn, they're happy. And the vendors are happy. And Microsoft is happy. Microsoft is supposed to be working on 802.11 protocol support for Windows, but I suspect it's going to be purely a Longhorn thing, unless they plan on another major service pack for XP. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul_at_windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= <adamw> you're just BEGGING to face the moose =============================================================================Received on Tue Jun 01 2004 - 16:47:00 UTC
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