Re: TSC instead of ACPI: powerd doesn't work anymore (to be expected?)

From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk_at_phk.freebsd.dk>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:48:20 +0100
In message <81484.1130756628_at_critter.freebsd.dk>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes:

>And finally, WinTel know that the ACPI timer sucks, thats why more
>recent hardware has HPET timers, I'm working on support for that.

OK, I've added a rudimentary HPET support that gives us a timecounter.

It has quality -200, so it will not be used unless manually configured
with the sysctl.


Here is the short summary of the two machines I could test it on:

		TSC		ACPI-fast	HPET		i8254
dual Xeon:	580 nsec	1429 nsec	1120 nsec	3980 nsec
dual Opteron:	212 nsec	1270 nsec	1760 nsec	4420 nsec

So while AMD is better at TSC and ACPI-fast, Intel is better at
HPET and i8254.

And yes, this probably depends on just about everything on the motherboard
so your mileage will vary...

Fortunately we can choose timecounter based on its speed, once we have
convinced ourselves that the quality is OK.  We don't currently do this,
but the code can be resurrected.

Poul-Henning


Full results (HEX = Opteron, Y = Xeon)

critter phk> ministat HEX/*.[AHT]* Y/*.[AHT]*
x HEX/_.tc.ACPI-fast
+ HEX/_.tc.HPET
* HEX/_.tc.TSC
% Y/_.tc.ACPI-fast
# Y/_.tc.HPET
_at_ Y/_.tc.TSC
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                 _at_                        #             %                 |
|                 _at_                        #             %                 |
|                 _at_                        #             %                 |
|*                _at_                        #             %                 |
|*                _at_                        #      x      %              +  |
|*                _at_                        #      x      %              +  |
|*                _at_                        #      x      %              +  |
|*                _at_                        #      x      %              ++ |
|**               _at_                        #     xxx     %              ++ |
|***              _at_                        #     xxx     %              +++|
|MA               A                        A     |A|     A              MA |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    N           Min           Max        Median           Avg        Stddev
x  10     1.257e-06     1.299e-06     1.265e-06    1.2705e-06 1.5042532e-08
+  10     1.752e-06     1.794e-06      1.76e-06    1.7637e-06 1.2543701e-08
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        4.932e-07 +/- 1.3013e-08
        38.8194% +/- 1.02424%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.38496e-08)
*  10      2.11e-07      2.45e-07      2.12e-07     2.189e-07 1.1551335e-08
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -1.0516e-06 +/- 1.26009e-08
        -82.7706% +/- 0.99181%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.3411e-08)
%  10     1.429e-06     1.431e-06     1.429e-06    1.4295e-06 8.4983659e-10
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        1.59e-07 +/- 1.00101e-08
        12.5148% +/- 0.787888%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.06536e-08)
#  10      1.12e-06     1.121e-06      1.12e-06    1.1201e-06 3.1622777e-10
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -1.504e-07 +/- 9.99638e-09
        -11.8379% +/- 0.786807%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.0639e-08)
_at_  10      5.79e-07       5.8e-07       5.8e-07     5.796e-07 5.1639778e-10
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -6.909e-07 +/- 1.00001e-08
        -54.3802% +/- 0.787097%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.06429e-08)

critter phk> ministat HEX/*
x HEX/_.tc.ACPI-fast
+ HEX/_.tc.HPET
* HEX/_.tc.TSC
% HEX/_.tc.i8254
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                                         %|
|*                          +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 x        +                                             %|
|*                 xx       +                                             %|
|**                xx       +                                             %|
|A                 A|       A                                             A|
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    N           Min           Max        Median           Avg        Stddev
x  10     1.257e-06     1.299e-06     1.265e-06    1.2705e-06 1.5042532e-08
+  10     1.752e-06     1.794e-06      1.76e-06    1.7637e-06 1.2543701e-08
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        4.932e-07 +/- 1.3013e-08
        38.8194% +/- 1.02424%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.38496e-08)
*  10      2.11e-07      2.45e-07      2.12e-07     2.189e-07 1.1551335e-08
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -1.0516e-06 +/- 1.26009e-08
        -82.7706% +/- 0.99181%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.3411e-08)
%  10     4.418e-06     4.439e-06     4.424e-06    4.4264e-06 7.5894664e-09
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        3.1559e-06 +/- 1.11942e-08
        248.398% +/- 0.881084%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 1.19138e-08)

critter phk> ministat Y/*
x Y/_.tc.ACPI-fast
+ Y/_.tc.HPET
* Y/_.tc.TSC
% Y/_.tc.i8254
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|*           +     x                                                      %|
|A           A     A                                                      A|
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    N           Min           Max        Median           Avg        Stddev
x  10     1.429e-06     1.431e-06     1.429e-06    1.4295e-06 8.4983659e-10
+  10      1.12e-06     1.121e-06      1.12e-06    1.1201e-06 3.1622777e-10
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -3.094e-07 +/- 6.0245e-10
        -21.6439% +/- 0.0421441%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 6.41179e-10)
*  10      5.79e-07       5.8e-07       5.8e-07     5.796e-07 5.1639778e-10
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        -8.499e-07 +/- 6.60693e-10
        -59.4544% +/- 0.0462185%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 7.03167e-10)
%  10     3.973e-06     3.986e-06      3.98e-06    3.9791e-06 3.4140234e-09
Difference at 95.0% confidence
        2.5496e-06 +/- 2.33748e-09
        178.356% +/- 0.163517%
        (Student's t, pooled s = 2.48775e-09)



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