Re: nextboot (was Re: boot block differences between 4.x and 6.x ?)

From: Julian Elischer <julian_at_elischer.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:15:06 -0800
Oliver Fromme wrote:

>Julian Elischer wrote:
> > Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > I think the most visible changes in the boot blocks was
> > > UFS2 support and the removal of nextboot(8) support.
> > 
> > which I hope to put back because we continue to need it.
>
>I agree that it's needed.  It's a very useful feature.
>
> > (The new nextboot being dependent on the root filesystem still being ok
> > which is unacceptable to most embedded devices I've worked on, and why
> > we still use the old bootblocks on all systems shipped.).
>
>>From my point of view, the biggest problem with the old
>nextboot was the fact that it ignored loader(8) and tried
>to load the kernel directly.  While that might work under
>certain conditions, it's not good in general.
>
>Therefore I think that a new nextboot implementation
>should be implemented in loader itself.  Since loader(8)
>doesn't (and shouldn't) support writing to UFS2, the
>state information should be written to an unused area in
>block 2 on the disk, or something similar.  In fact, one
>byte is sufficient:  It can be used as an index into a
>table (ASCII text file), e.g. /boot/nextboot.conf.
>
>Would that be feasible to implement?
>  
>

The old nextboot used the 2nd block of the filesystem to hold information.
But I can't remember if it used that information itself at all to decide 
whether
to load boot1/boot2 from another partition, or whether it just always 
loaded it from the
first 8k of the forst BSD partition..  I believe the latter.

If I had lots of time to do it, I think I'd want to make a 'bootconfig' 
partition
that covered the place where the info is stored and then try and 
interpret SOME
of the information recovered to decide what drive/slice to load the rest 
of the boot1/boot2 combo.

When we wrote the original nextboot code, we wanted to select between 
two root
partitions,
so that a failure to boot would result in a fallback to the other root, 
but we didn't
want the bootblock writing anywhere in a filesystem, nor did we want the
we kept free otherwise.
We were only concerned with one drive however.
At Ironport we use the identical scheme again. Allowing one root 
partition to be upgraded
(with a newfs if needed) while teh other is being run on, and then 
rebooting into the new
one with confidence that if it fails to get all the way up another 
reboot would come
back to the previous root.  Having the information as to where to boot 
to, on one
of those partitions is not an option.. it may be failing because the 
filesystem, is in fact screwed.


>Best regards
>   Oliver
>
>  
>
Received on Wed Feb 01 2006 - 19:19:33 UTC

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