Re: FreeBSD's embedded agenda

In message: <4476036F.4090302_at_centtech.com>
            Eric Anderson <anderson_at_centtech.com> writes:
: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
: > In message <4475EFC1.1020504_at_nortel.com>, "Andrew Atrens" writes:
: > 
: >>>> Said kernel would have a low level driver that makes plain
: >>>> old flash chips look (and behave) like a disk. It would support
: >>>> wear-levelling, [...]
: >>>>
: >>>> Then you could throw FFS on top of that.
: >>> This is exactly what you do not want to do.
: >>>
: >>> You want to write a flash friendly filesystem which knows what
: >>> a flash is, and which does the wear levelling internally.
: >>>
: >>> The reason Flash Adaptation Layers came about in the first place
: >>> is that W95 didn't support anything but FAT.
: >> Hmm. I was thinking about partitioning the problem actually. Make flash
: >> look like a disk and then you can put any filesystem on it that you
: >> want. Seems a heck of a lot simpler .. and I'm not sure if I see any
: >> drawbacks to doing it that way ...
: > 
: > The main one is that the flash adaptation layer does not have the
: > full information to work with for deciding wear-leveling decisions
: > and the filesystem has no idea what the optimal block allocation
: > strategy is for the flash device.
: > 
: > Flash devices have no seek time penalty, and therefore the block
: > allocation should focus on wear-leveling rather than seek time
: > optimization.
: > 
: 
: This sounds like an awefuly fun project to me.  Is anyone (PHK?) willing 
: to help me with some of the FreeBSD kernel related issues?  If so, I'd 
: like to work on this.

I can help.  I don't suffer from the NDA issues that phk has.

Warner