Re: Do we need this junk?

Nikolas Britton wrote:
> On 4/6/07, M. Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> In message: <ef10de9a0704061136s2dc35c06w431d6d3f8c05dc1_at_mail.gmail.com>
>>             "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton_at_gmail.com> writes:
>> : Where is this coming from? I'm trying to debate some of the issues
>> : with FreeBSD and the only thing you've added to this thread is fuck
>> : off? Why?
>>
>> Because you have used language that is somewhat absolute and have not
>> done a market research on who actually uses FreeBSD.  You have also
>> shown a fundamental lack of understanding of how modern machines are
>> put together as well, since you think all things ISA are obsolete
>> (they are not).
>>
>> As others have noted, there's a very large and vibrant embedded
>> FreeBSD community.  This community makes real and meaningful
>> contributions to FreeBSD.  Over the years, I've made thousands of
>> commits to the tree, funded in large part by the embedded companies
>> that I have worked for, including CardBus, PC Card, SD/MMC,
>> infrasturcutre changes, etc.
>>
>> Frankly, we'd rather tell a new, upstart to get bent than to tell
>> actual users and supports of FreeBSD to get bent by removing the
>> offending items from the tree.  It really is a no-brainer.
>>
> 
> New upstart? I have not been using FreeBSD for as long as you but I'm
> definitely not new here, I've been using and hacking on FreeBSD for
> over 5 years now and my professional experience with almost every
> operating system under the sun goes back much much farther. If the
> project leadership doesn't give a shit about the users then I guess I
> don't give a shit about project. Good bye. I'm sure Sun would mind new
> users.

Oh, you wanted a discussion?  I thought you wanted baseless opinions.
Oh well, I'm sure that the OpenSolaris developers are eager to hear your
ideas on what they should and should not work on and support.

Scott