Re: named.conf restored to hint zone for the root by default

From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews_at_isc.org>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:12:15 +1000
> Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 01:49:39PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> >> Oliver Fromme wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> Just for the record, I like the current solution, i.e. default 
> >>> being a "hint" zone, and slave zones being commented out, ready
> >>> to be used for those who know what they're doing.
> > 
> > I second this.  And although I like Doug's use of AXFR from the
> > roots (like others reported, it definitely speeds things up), I
> > also want to continue to respect rootserver operators and dns-ops's
> > concerns.
> 
> Something that I haven't mentioned but I think is probably worth
> pointing out is that at least for Paul Vixie (operator of f.root) the
> concern is not for the root servers, it's for potential problems on
> the client side. The following is from
> http://lists.oarci.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2007-August/001920.html
> 
> i remain perplexed about the general perception that AXFR is bad for a
> root name server.  it's not.  RFC1035 describes some resource
> management techniques for TCP state blobs, which the root servers
> follow.  the chance that an AXFR will be blown away by a TCP query is
> very high, and so, it's bad for clients to make production use of AXFR
> from busy servers.i remain perplexed about the general perception that
> AXFR is bad for a root name server.  it's not.  RFC1035 describes some
> resource management techniques for TCP state blobs, which the root
> servers follow.  the chance that an AXFR will be blown away by a TCP
> query is very high, and so, it's bad for clients to make production
> use of AXFR from busy servers.
> 
> The 3 zones in question are actually really small:
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 bind  wheel   1.6K Aug  2 14:25 arpa.slave
> -rw-r--r--  1 bind  wheel    23K Aug  2 14:24 in-addr.arpa.slave
> -rw-r--r--  1 bind  wheel    64K Aug  2 14:30 root.slave
> 
> so I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in practice.

	I also suspect that using accept filters will mitigate some
	of the problem.  If someone was to write a DNS accept filter
	that would help.
 
> > So offering the template configuration to do so, but not enabling
> > it by default, is a very good thing.  Thank you for doing this,
> > Doug.
> 
> Glad to do it. I'm also glad to see that this topic is getting serious
> discussion.
> 
> Doug
> 
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