Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Since I am not the only person with these issues, see "sata ihc9r"
> thread in -current, just the only one to document them formally (so far)
> [hopefully the other two will write a good summary of the acd issue they
> are seeing] there is need for easy reference for anyone working on
> patches (or new frameworks such as one of person informed me of
> privately).   Among other things the wiki is meant as a way of knowinig
> the status of each task (may not be issue based per se).  I suspect some
> of these issues may be quickly resolved and the others will require some
> research thus they may spread out of a few weeks or months.

Ok

>> Let's see what the "issues" on the wiki:
>>
>>  - Mis-numbered adXXX on SATA drives
>> This is non-issue.  It's well documented in ata(4) that you can change
>> the behavior by removing the anti-foot-shooting option ATA_STATIC_ID
>> from your kernel configuration;
>>   
> 
> The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then.

How come the number is so important for you?  What do you think if you
have to drop into single user mode and adjust fstab manually and the box
is several thousands of miles away from you after a simple 'make
kernel'?  I think changing this behavior is a big POLA and not the right
thing to do.

>>  - Wrong SATA type/speed reported
>> More information is needed if you really want to have this problem
>> resolved, like atacontrol output, etc.
> 
> See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know all
> the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by several of
> the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IHC9
> owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the wiki
> is aimed at)

Please provide links on the wiki if you really want it to be useful.

I think the only ich9 issue I am aware of so far is that a specific
model of it is not recognized.  This is fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7.

>>  - PATA/SATA co-existence
>> Is the PATA chip supported by the driver?  What's its PCI IDs?
> 
> You accuse me of not doing my research... a simple search of the various
> threads these issues have come up will tell you that:
> 
> 1. Yes it does show up (I can even boot from it) but it is complete gone
> from dmesg (even verbose), pciutil, etc.

Ditto.

> 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is the
> same one I got here

Is the problem still exist for latest RELENG_7 and RELENG_6?  Who can
provide some basic testing for a new snapshot?

No, it does not help if that's just "it panics", "foo is not supported"
if no detailed information is provided and we don't have our hands on
the actual hardware.

>> Also I would like to say that it is much more useful if you will have
>> someone who donate the proper hardware to sos_at_, our Mr. ATA.  He is very
>> knowledgeable about the driver and ATA/SATA stuff, and a very responsive
>> person.
> 
> 1. I will have to look it up but I think he is the one of the people
> that told me p35/ihc9 owners where on their own.

Again, it does not make sense if we don't even know how to contact these
users.

> 2. Some of the issues are pressing and some are just annonyances the
> only pressing one for me is the PATA/SATA one and that is likelly to be

Could you please provide some more detailed information (e.g. previous
posted message-id or a link to mail archive)?

> the last one fixed because I suspect it relies on fixing the type/speed
> and (yet to be documented) acd issue(s).

Cheers,
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