Re: I backed out the sensors framework

> Now, who are you, and what is your role in this ?

Well, I'm just a BSD OS lurker/fan.
I really like netBSD.
But the FreeBSD ZFS port caught my attention lately (despite the on going 
ZFS lawsuit).

Thanks for the clarifications, and I apologise for the disruption.

Based on the following:

>> If you compare at NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD, you will find a quite
>> visible difference in the architectural attitude the projects take
>> to various problems.

I had the feelings that the 'backed out' was motivated by "BSD politics" 
rather than tech merits.

// Yocto

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk_at_phk.freebsd.dk>
To: "YoctoGram" <yoctogram_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "Shteryana Shopova" <syrinx_at_FreeBSD.org>; <freebsd-current_at_FreeBSD.org>; 
"Alexander Leidinger" <netchild_at_FreeBSD.org>; "Constantine A. Murenin" 
<cnst_at_FreeBSD.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: I backed out the sensors framework


> In message <019901c80fe8$3cb62b20$6401a8c0_at_Mewtwo>, "YoctoGram" writes:
>>> If it is biased, it is biased against the code and not the person(s).
>>
>>I'm sorry, but who are you to decide?
>
> A fair question I guess.
>
> I am undisputedly the person who has been most active in FreeBSD
> kernel development for the longest time.
>
> I have severely cleaned up the VFS system and the attached filesystems,
> written DEVFS, GEOM, a widely acclaimed implementation of malloc(3),
> the timekeeping code, a disk encryption facility, large parts of
> the FreeBSD release building and installation code, from scratch.
> Add to that a bunch of device drivers and various other stuff.
>
> In terms of raw numbers, the FreeBSD CVS repo statistics say that
> I have made 4707 commits to the kernel, 25% more than number two
> on that list.  If you add in the 2367 commits I have made to the
> rest of the source code, you will find that on average, I have, on
> average, committed something to FreeBSD every 17h20m, over the last
> 14 years.
>
> I have also been the FreeBSD release engineer and a core team member,
> for far longer time than is good for any persons sanity, and have,
> through insight, reasoning, argument, manipulation, deceit and
> downright trickery been instrumental in getting FreeBSD to where
> it is now.
>
> That of course does not mean that I get to make decisions in a
> vacuum, or "just because", that's not how FreeBSD works.  But it
> does have a tendency to give my opinion some weight.
>
> I am also coincidentally, the perpetrator behind the "bikeshed.org"
> meme.
>
>
> Now, who are you, and what is your role in this ?
>
>
>>Who did accept and approved this project in the first place?
>
> Google and the FreeBSD SoC mentors I pressume ?
>
>>Why should Google be spending any more money on "approved" FreeBSD SoC...
>>if, at the end, it get "backed out" ?
>
> Ahh, but you seem to labour under the misunderstanding that SoC is
> a fast path to the FreeBSD source tree.  That is not the case.
>
> Being approved for SoC means that the project is a good project for
> SoC, it does not imply that the code will end up in a FreeBSD release.
>
> As far as I have kept score, only around half of the SoC projects
> end up being imported in CVS, and usually only after significant
> more work.
>
> That is still an impressive score by all means, and I fully support
> the SoC programme: how I wish such an opportunity had existed when
> I was younger.
>
>>So, if there was a problem with "the code"... why didn't you (or any of 
>>the
>>FreeBSD leaders) took action(s) sooner?
>
> I did, and people didn't pay sufficient attention.
>
> Poul-Henning
>
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