On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:36:03AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Andrey Chernov wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 04:53:54PM +0200, Attilio Rao wrote: > >> 2008/9/16, Andrey Chernov <ache_at_nagual.pp.ru>: > >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 03:38:16PM +0100, Bob Bishop wrote: > >>> > Hi, > >>> > >>>> > >>> > On 16 Sep 2008, at 15:03, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> I need some sort of fork() hook to detect that pid is changed to re- > >>> >> stir > >>> >> ar4random() after that (in the child), simple flag variable with > >>> >> child's pid is needed. > >>> >> > >>> >> Currently OpenBSD does almost that checking getpid() every time > >>> >> arc4random() called, but it is very slow way to use getpid() syscall > >>> >> repeatedly, about 12-15 times slower than just arc4random() without > >>> >> getpid(). > >>> >> > >>> >> Any ideas? > >>> > > >>> > >>>> How about something hacky using mmap()/minherit()? > >>> > >>> Could you please provide working low cost example to detect that we are in > >>> the child (pid changed or something else)? Calling getpid() as OpenBSD > >>> does definitely is very high cost. :( > >> > >> An idea would be to implement a shared page between process and system > >> which exports such informations. > >> I'm sure we have a SoC project (2007) implementing this and perforce > >> branches for it, I'm just not sure how far it did end. > > > > Please keep in mind that the hook itself must be invisible to user > > application, we have standard API only - fork() and arc4random() family, > > no additional setup or functions are possible outside of existen API. I.e. > > the low cost hack must be completely inside ether the fork() wrapper or > > arc4random(). > > Well, you could speed up getpid() by having libc wrap all fork() > variants. The idea is that getpid() would only call __sys_getpid() > the first time it was called and then only after a fork(). It > would return the saved process id for all other cases. > > This wouldn't work if the application made its own syscall > without going through libc. > > The shared page between process and system has been tossed around > before and would probably be more benficial. Having access to > time without making a syscall would be nice. Yes, speeding up getpid() by caching its pid is nice idea. But I am completely unaware how to create syscall wrappers inside libc. :( I think about something like that: __weak_reference(_fork, fork); pid_t _fork(void); pid_t _fork(void) { pid_t ret; if ((ret = __sys_fork()) == 0) _curr_pid = -1; return (ret); } But how it will coexists with the same __weak in thread/thr_fork.c ? Are some threading locks required in this code? -- http://ache.pp.ru/Received on Tue Sep 16 2008 - 14:05:51 UTC
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