Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 03:23:56PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000
> > From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman_at_infracaninophile.co.uk>
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org
> > 
> > Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
> > >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count
> > >> dragonflyBSD)
> > > 
> > > VMS would be #0, then? :-)
> > 
> > I dunno.  Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either...
> 
> I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too
> many are networked.
> 
> I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has
> remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and
> financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently
> outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last
> of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. 

Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still MS-Dos with
Novell for network, running text based inventory/quote/sales app.

> 
> Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to
> almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and
> TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until
> his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember
> TECO.)
> 
> And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially
> the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises
> and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I
> won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found
> out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that
> I could not utter the word.)
> -- 
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