Re: HEADSUP usb2 (usb4bsd) to become default in 2 weeks.

OK.  Will make sure this gets priority.

Right now we're trying to set up svk so that me submitting
his patches will be much more steamlined.

Afaik, your issues are top priority after that.

-Alfred

* M. Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> [090102 15:29] wrote:
> In message: <20090102231811.GF60686_at_elvis.mu.org>
>             Alfred Perlstein <alfred_at_freebsd.org> writes:
> : I can understand that you're upset that you've hit a few snags,
> : but this is the first report from you I've seen in a while, so
> : please come up with some specifics so that we can address them.
> 
> Yea, it is hard to stop to file bug reports when you're trying to get
> something else done...  But I've filed a bug report.  I have a few
> others that I'm waiting to find the time to recreate them.
> 
> : "some disk enclosures" and "dvd burning doesn't work for me", isn't
> : a bug report that's very useful, there are published debugging
> : steps for usb4bsd (just as there are for generic kernel errors)
> : and it would be nice if you would look into them.
> : 
> : At the very least, some console messages or some details.
> 
> I've filed a bug report.  hps asked for more information, but I didn't
> understand what he wanted, so I asked for clarification.  Once he
> tells me more clearly what he needs, I'll get it for him.  I have the
> setup that causes problems in place, and will until I get all the
> hockey videos made...  Several weeks still...  I expect that hps will
> reply in the next day or two...
> 
> Warner
> 
> 
> : -Alfred
> : 
> : 
> : * M. Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> [090102 10:59] wrote:
> : > In message: <20081229181044.GA78575_at_dragon.NUXI.org>
> : >             "David O'Brien" <obrien_at_freebsd.org> writes:
> : > : On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:19:44AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> : > : > * David O'Brien <obrien_at_freebsd.org> [081229 03:10] wrote:
> : > : > > [ Note: replies directed to list ]
> : > : > > 
> : > : > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 05:23:58PM +0100, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> : > : > > > There are some debugging sysctls which you can try to tune/increase:
> : > : > > > 
> : > : > > > hw.usb2.pr_recovery_delay: 250
> : > : > > > hw.usb2.ss_delay: 0
> : > : > > > hw.usb2.ehci.no_hs: 0 // this value is a boolean
> : > : > > 
> : > : > > Please.  Can we quickly rename this before it gets too ingrained?
> : > : > > 
> : > : > > "usb2" just implies too much the "USB 2.0 specification of April 2000"
> : > : > > vs. the 2nd USB implementation within FreeBSD.
> : > : > > 
> : > : > > To stop confusion between USB 2.0 spec and this work, can it be renamed
> : > : > > to "hpsusb", "usbhps", "usb4bsd", or even the dreaded over-used "usbNG"?
> : > : > 
> : > : > David, in about two weeks we're going to make "usb2" or "hpsusb" ( :) )
> : > : > the default, if things go well we're planning on cleaning it up
> : > : > and making it just "usb" within a few weeks after that.
> : > 
> : > I'm very nervous about this.  I have several disk enclosure boxes that
> : > flat out don't work on usb2 that work flawlessly on the current usb
> : > stack.  I've not had time to totally characterize things.
> : > 
> : > Also, the rate of patches into perforce seems high and good.  However,
> : > they aren't making it into svn quickly.  I'd rather see them in the
> : > tree and tested well in advance of making usb2 just usb.
> : > 
> : > : > Let's not do this now though as we'll just wind up having to
> : > : > do it twice.  Rest assured we will get to it shortly.
> : > : 
> : > : Thanks Alfred.
> : > : Of course I knew it was about to become the default, but wasn't clear as
> : > : to what it would look like as the default.
> : > : 
> : > : Like others, I tried to move to a machine to "hpsusb" and didn't find it
> : > : so turn-key.
> : > 
> : > I've found that some things work a lot better, while others are a
> : > regression.  When your object is to burn DVDs, it can be too large a
> : > detour to catalog all the problems that I've hit.  I should start
> : > doing that, however, since it is clear things are moving ahead at
> : > breakneck speeds :(
> : > 
> : > Warner
> : 
> : -- 
> : - Alfred Perlstein
> : 
> : 

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- Alfred Perlstein