Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?)

From: Christoph Mallon <christoph.mallon_at_gmx.de>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:05:34 +0100
O. Hartmann schrieb:
> Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:15:52PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>> the end. Take Gentoo Linux: it's a Linux distribution riddled with
>>> choices -- so many bloody choices that one has to make to get a
>>> working system, that just one library going south with the wrong
>>> option can set you back hours or days in order to get up and going
>>> again... we shouldn't go down that road or we'll just be begging for
>>> pain, if not from a support end, then from a user endpoint because
>>> we'll be more efficient manufacturers of rope than ever before, and
>>> users will be isolated from folks trying to reproduce their issues.
>>
>> As a FBSD user I'm really happy with the current balance between
>> freedom of choice and order. This was the thing that attracted me
>> first to FBSD (v 4.9), after being thoroughly confused by linux anarchy.
>>>> From my point of view this is the ideal balance, and this is what makes
>> FBSD stand apart from linux and other BSDs.
>>
>> Too much choice is not always a good thing.
>>
>> yours
>> anton
>>
> 
> .. but having NO or a very RESTRICTED choice could lead to a dead end, 
> see performance, modern parallel techniques (OpenMP) and new 

OpenMP? In the core of an operating system? mkay...

> built-in-silica -features. If the 'dictated choice' of the compiler 
> leads also development of the OS's interna (by taking care of having no 
> specific features like SSE3/4/4.1/4.2 for basic libc-features like 
> memcopy etc due to the danger the compiler/binutils will not target this 
> in all cases or whilst the development of the compiler stagnated and 
> therefore those features could not be used), this could also be the end 
> for the OS.

The end of the world is near!
Please, people, keep realistic.

> Switching back to an hopeless outdated relict from the past (pcc) means 
> having years of development and invention bringing those compiler suits 
> back to the recent state of the art and this means the OS that relies on 
> those strange political directions could end up behind competitors. This 
> may sound stupid for several people here, but Within the 13 years with 
> FreeBSD now, I saw many departments switching from FreeBSD to Linux and 
> moneyflow is in most cases directed towards expected profit. Since BSD 
> isn't developed as an academic approach of an OS, it is highly dependend 
> on a pseudo-commercial success finding new donations hiring developer 
> (not scientists, what a pitty).

I wonder if this has anything to do with the massive amounts of $$$ 
firms like HP and IBM pour into marketing for the Linux hype...
Received on Fri Jan 16 2009 - 10:05:37 UTC

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