Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
> Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
> added to the developer summits. Plenty of the people at the most
> recent developer summit weren't _at_freebsd.org committers - we had
> plenty of representation from companies using FreeBSD.
>
> If you want to participate, just ask a friendly developer who is going
> to the developer summit to sponsor you in going. You're pleasant in
> person, so I'd have no problem sponsoring you if I am going to an
> event. :)
>
I have a very deep, quasi-philosophical, trouble/problem with that
whole idea of sponsor-requirement to attend a such meeting. There is
just something which does not feel right about it. From my point of
view, this is a matter of common sense, focus is gonna be very narrow
and deeply technical. Attendee should go there only if they think they
will give positive feedback. As for myself, I would not attend a
developer meeting on the fiber-channel over infiniband optimization,
but would attend a developer meeting on next-generation mbuf.

Now, maybe I'll just push the door of some developer meeting I'd be
interested in during next BSDCan, and see what happen :-) The outcome
might be interesting to study in a social interaction, prisoner
dilemma related, point-of-view.

 - Arnaud

> And/or, work with warner to get improvements into the tree and someone
> will sponsor a commit bit for you.
>
> Perhaps we as developers should more openly publish the results of
> developer summits. But as I said, they're not "closed" - they're just
> "invite only for non-developers." We're not going to exclude anyone
> from coming unless they really ARE going to just sit there and troll.
> You're motivated, you're enthusiastic and you want to see things
> change for the better. You're also not confrontational in person. I
> have no problem with you coming along.
>
>
> Adrian