On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:52:43AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Doug Barton wrote: > >> > >>> I don't think we have ever done a complete replacement of major > >>> infrastructure in one release. > >> > >> You mean like sysinstall can be used as an installer on 9 that would > >> do something meaningful with the current infrastructure we provide? > > > > You understood my oblique sysinstall reference... The 'can't do it in one release' is a red herring. The current package system is by no means as good as sysinstall was before it was replaced. The new one is much better and deserves a shot of 'replace in one' if it proves to be ready. Anything contrary to that is just obstructionism. > > I don't agree. I know that I am not the only one who uses the pkgdb in > internal scripts. While getting rid of pkg_* will be a wonderful thing > and, for most of the systems I deal with the switch will happen very > soon, a couple will need major re-working to replace the use of the > pkgdb. Since these are systems that I usually run either the latest > STABLE (RELENG_9 at this time) or CURRENT, this would prevent moving > to CURRENT or 10-STABLE if I can't do so and still have the option of > sticking with the old system for a while. This is especially true for > 1.0, until things like adding SVN revision and (hopefully) options to > the DB to make working with a combination of packages and ports > reasonable. I can't imagine EVER getting away from building some > things from source using ports at any time. > > Yes, I understand that getting rid of pkg_ will allow things to be > done that will be difficult (impossible?) to retrofit into pkg_*, but > this is a HUGE change for most admins, much bigger than the sysinstall > change as it will mostly impact on systems currently running FreeBSD > where sysinstall did not. > > Please, please be very careful about pulling the life support plug on pkg_*. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > E-mail: kob6558_at_gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports_at_freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe_at_freebsd.org" That is the reason why I updated today the pkg_install ports so that people will be able to keep an up to date pkg_* tools for the time the ports tree will support it, (meaning at least EOL of 9.1 and EOL of 8.3) regards, Bapt
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