Re: WAS: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? New: port annoyance LibreOffice

From: Chris Rees <crees_at_FreeBSD.org>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:20:21 +0100
On 10 June 2012 18:10, O. Hartmann <ohartman_at_zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:
>> On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
>>> Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
>>> schrieb Chris Rees<crees_at_FreeBSD.org>:
>>>
>>>> Er... people always test their commits.  Sometimes edge cases will
>>>> creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different
>>>> configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite
>>>> frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well.
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't mean to insult anyone. As I have already told, I am really
>>> thankful that people invest their precious time into updating the ports
>>> collection.
>>>
>>> Whatever "clean system" means. It is surely not the default case that
>>> someone has got a freshly installed set of ports.
>>>
>>> Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the
>>> group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen
>>> "portmaster -ad" run through successfully last time. I need more and
>>> more "-x" options to exclude ports which fail to build.
>>>
>>> [1] german/libreoffice and libreoffice fails all the time in
>>> (LOCALIZED_LANG is set to "de"):
>>>
>>> Module 'lingucomponent' delivered successfully. 12 files copied, 2
>>> files unchanged
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>          Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry !
>>>    For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in:
>>>              http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development
>>>
>>>    internal build errors:
>>>
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while
>>> making
>>> /usr/workdir-ports/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj
>>>
>>>
>>>   it seems that the error is inside 'vcl', please re-run build
>>>   inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix:
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever this tries to tell me. I don't get it. This is a completely
>>> useless error message for me.
>
> Not even in german/libreoffice. i try to build the standard version and
> I receive the same error.
>
> I can fix this by doing what the buildsystem suggests, but then I have a
> stop in sfx2 and others and it ends up in some module called tail_XXXX,
> where the build never ends when performing the repair as suggested. I
> had once a box running all the night looping building in this folder.
>
>>>
>>> [2] The default annoyances are for example:
>>>
>>> - After updating perl, php or whatever, it makes sense to enforce
>>>    updating the modules that belong to these ports. I've seen 100x the
>>>    same message that p5-XML-Parser does not work and know what it means,
>>>    but this should be resolved by the port system. I mean, when you
>>>    update perl, the perl modules won't work anymore. This is totally
>>>    clear and it makes sense to update them first before going on.
>
> I can confirm that. I fixed that for me by "portmaster p5-" in case
> p5-SAX-XXX failed.

There's an UPDATING message written for that very purpose.

>>>
>>> - When specifying WITHOUT_X11 the ports should respect this and not try
>>>    to pull in the X11 variants of ports. I regularly see some ports
>>>    pulling ImageMagick instead of the already installed
>>>    ImageMagick-nox11. I still do not fully understand what is going on
>>>    with WITHOUT_GNOME, but I'll try to figure it out later. But I am
>>>    quite sure that some ports pull in unneeded Gnome dependencies.
>>>
>>> - Ports are being marked as interactive and stop the update process. The
>>>    idea behind portmaster was (earlier) to avoid interactive building of
>>>    ports and ask all the needed questions, before the builds start. I
>>>    mean, earlier, I could get out and enjoy some coffee outdoors, now I
>>>    have to sit at the keyboard. This is unacceptable! ;)
>
> "portmaster" does even more damage. Sometimed a port reels in some newly
> updates, a port gets deleted. if on of the to be updated prerquisits
> fail, the port in question isn't there anymore.
>
> "portmaster" fails quite often in "oberwriting" remnant files. If a port
> gets corrupted by accident, like graphics/netpbm, One need to delete all
> binaries manually from /usr/local/bin, otherwise the installation fails.
>
> Somehow I wish to have a "brute force" knob to overwrite everything in a
> brutal way.

FORCE_PKG_REGISTER.

>>>
>>> - It would be nice to have a mechanism that tells you that your perl,
>>>    mysql or whatever is not the default version anymore and you should
>>>    consider updating to the default (and recommended) port.
>>>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>
>> From /etc/defaults/periodic.conf:
>>
>> # 400.status-pkg
>> weekly_status_pkg_enable="YES"                # Find out-of-date pkgs
>> pkg_version=pkg_version                           # Use this program
>> pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-9      # Use this index file
>>
>> There's an override script in ports-mgmt/portupgrade that uses it's
>> database, also.
>>
>
Received on Sun Jun 10 2012 - 15:20:54 UTC

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