RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

Marcus, I'll provide some incompatibilities description, as many as I can do.

Thanks
Oleg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> current_at_freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marcus von Appen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:40 AM
> To: freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT
> 
> Daniel Gerzo <danger_at_freebsd.org>:
> 
> > On 27.06.2012 10:43, Doug Barton wrote:
> >> On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote:
> >>> Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow.
> >>
> >> That's great, thanks.
> >>
> >>> But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort
> bugs.
> >>> It makes no sense and I am not going to do that. Absolutely not.
> >>
> >> That isn't what I said. What I asked is for you to *test* the
> existing
> >> sort vs. the new one, and to report where the behavior is different.
> >> That's a very basic part of any sort of "replace a core utility"
> project
> >> such as this one.
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > Doug, are you implying that if we were about to import a new version
> > of GNU sort, you would be asking for the same data? I believe we do
> > not make this kind of work with any vendor code that is being
> > updated in the base; I do not really understand why should Oleg or
> > anyone else do this work when the bsdsort is compatible with a
> > recent version of GNU sort.
> 
> Seconded for -CURRENT. I think, we should at least provide some brief
> document, whatsoever on incompatibilities with the sort implementation
> that
> is currently active in RELENG_9, no matter how buggy it is.
> 
> This allows adopters and people, who have to migrate their production
> systems
> to identify and quantify the areas to change and perform some risk
> management.
> This also allows them to move more quickly to the new release, since
> they
> can start with the necessary changes earlier and plan ahead.
> 
> We provide such changes usually in the release notes for various tools,
> we
> updated and I think that giving out such a document earlier will be
> extremely
> benefitial for companies, which have to deal with more than one or two
> servers running FreeBSD, especially if we know that the currently
> shipped
> implementation is buggy and people most likely will have their own
> workarounds
> for that.
> 
> Cheers
> Marcus
> 
> 
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