Re: [PATCH] SO_REUSEADDR and SO_REUSEPORT behaviour

From: Ermal Luçi <eri_at_freebsd.org>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:01:26 +0100
And some better marketing from Dragonfly about it
http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?29,241283,241283 :)


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Ermal Luçi <eri_at_freebsd.org> wrote:

> Also some discussions and improvements to it.
>
> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/net/2013-09/msg00165.html
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ermal Luçi <eri_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> Well seems Dragonfly has some version of it already from commit [1].
>>
>> In FreeBSD there is the framework for this with by defining PCBGROUP.
>> Also the explanation of it at [2] and [3].
>> It can achieve approximately the same features of SO_RESUSEPORT of linux.
>> The only thing missing is the marketing behind it and i think and better
>> RSS support.
>> By looking at dates the support is there before linux so all you guys
>> looking for it can experiment with it.
>>
>> What i was trying to accomplish was something else from performance
>> improvement and
>> maybe put a sysctl behind it to make it more acceptable..
>>
>> [1]
>> http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/commitdiff/740d1d9f7b7bf9c9c021abb8197718d7a2d441c9
>> [2]
>> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/in_pcbgroup.c?im=bigexcerpts#L51
>> [3] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2011-June/028190.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Tim, you are wrong. Read what is "multicast" definition, and read how
>>> UDP and TCP sockets work in Linux 3.9+ kernels.
>>>
>>> Oleg .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Tim Kientzle <kientzle_at_freebsd.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Ermal Luçi <eri_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > since SO_REUSEADDR and SO_REUSEPORT are supposed to allow two daemons
>>>> to
>>>> > share the same port and possibly listening ip …
>>>>
>>>> These flags are used with TCP-based servers.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve used them to make software upgrades go more smoothly.
>>>> Without them, the following often happens:
>>>>
>>>> * Old server stops.  In the process, all of its TCP connections are
>>>> closed.
>>>>
>>>> * Connections to old server remain in the TCP connection table until
>>>> the remote end can acknowledge.
>>>>
>>>> * New server starts.
>>>>
>>>> * New server tries to open port but fails because that port is “still
>>>> in use” by connections in the TCP connection table.
>>>>
>>>> With these flags, the new server can open the port even though
>>>> it is “still in use” by existing connections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > This is not the case today.
>>>> > Only multicast sockets seem to have the behaviour of broadcasting the
>>>> data
>>>> > to all sockets sharing the same properties through these options!
>>>>
>>>> That is what multicast is for.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the same data sent to all listeners, then
>>>> that is multicast behavior and you should be using
>>>> a multicast socket.
>>>>
>>>> > The patch at [1] implements/corrects the behaviour for UDP sockets.
>>>>
>>>> You’re trying to turn all UDP sockets with those options
>>>> into multicast sockets.
>>>>
>>>> If you want a multicast socket, you should ask for one.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Ermal
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