(Copy for the list, wrong "from" address problem ...) On 18/09/2013, at 4:22 PM, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:45:19PM +0200, Ed Schouten wrote: >> [...] >> Honestly, I think we can assume we'll never reach the point where all >> the components listed above will properly have all functions >> partitioned over separate compilation units. >> >> I suspect that it would make a lot of sense to at least enable these >> build flags for our core libraries (libc, libc++, libpthread, >> libcompiler_rt, libcxxrt, etc). We could also enable it on >> INTERNALLIBs (libraries that are not installed into /usr/lib), as for >> these libraries, it would of course not come at any cost. >> >> Would that sound okay? > > I think this is a wrong direction. First, the split should be done at > the source level, as it was usually done forever. One of the offender > there was you, AFAIR. > > Second, I would rather see init and devd, and in fact all other statically > linked binaries from our base system, to become dynamically linked. At > least I added a knob for building toolchain dynamic, but avoided the > fight of making this default. Why do things by hand when there are good tools? Note "... as it was usually done forever" doesn't contain a good argument, and compilers and linkers on other platforms have been doing it like this for an awfully long time. Adding the flags has a benefit in the case where there are many functions in a source file and minimal cost when everything is perfect. Not having the flags means paying a bigger price when things are not perfect. And things are very rarely perfect. Having the structure of your source code driven by link-time considerations when there is a choice seems silly to me. Larger source files gives the compiler more scope for optimisation, and you can structure the code in a way useful to people working in the codebase. If you have a moral argument about how code should be structured, I think that is separate discussion. Adding the flags has a benefit, regardless of how the code is structured. I can see all upside, and I am having trouble seeing a problem with adding them at all. On the static linking vs. dynamic linking argument: I am strongly on the static linking side. But that is also a different discussion. Regards, Jan MikkelsenReceived on Wed Sep 18 2013 - 06:32:40 UTC
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