Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)

From: Julian Elischer <julian_at_freebsd.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:13:24 -0700
On 8/20/14, 11:00 AM, Davide Italiano wrote:
> One of my personal goals for 11 is to get rid of cloning mechanism
> entirely, and pty(4) is one of the few in-kernel drivers still relying
> on such mechanism.
> It's not possible, at least to my understanding, converting pty(4) to
> cdevpriv(9) as happened with other drivers. This is mainly because we
> always need a pair of devices (/dev/ptyXX and /dev/ttyXX) and
> userspace loops over ptyXX and after it successfully opens it tries to
> open the other one with the same suffix. So, having a single device is
> not really enough.
> My option, instead, is that of removing pty(4), which is nothing more
> than a compatibility driver, and move pmtx(4) code somewhere else.
> The main drawback of the removal of this is that it makes impossible
> to run FreeBSD <= 7 jails and SSH into them. I personally don't
> consider this a huge issue, in light of the fact that FreeBSD-7 has
> been EOL for a long time, but I would like to hear other people
> comments.
>
> The code review for the proposed change can be found here:
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D659
>
> If I won't get any objection I'll commit this in one week time, i.e.
> August 27th.
I agree with Alfred.
breaking old jails is a no no.
many people still use them. Me included.
I sometimes run jails back to 1.1,
not everything works, but enough does to build 1.1 binaries for 
certain devices.
Received on Wed Aug 20 2014 - 16:13:35 UTC

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