On Jul 17, 2014, at 13:00, Adrian Chadd <adrian_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson <andrnils_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian_at_freebsd.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box >>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it >>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a >>> problem; >> >> I disagree on this. For network services on linux ( apart from ssh ), I want >> that started very seldom. But I do want the package installed so that when I >> need it, it is there. Having it autostart as part of being installed is >> breaking KISS and in some way unix philosophy: I asked for something to be >> installed, not installed and autostarted. > > That's cool. We can disagree on that. But the fact that you have to > edit a file to enable things and hope you get the right start entry in > /etc/rc.conf or /usr/local/etc/rc.conf, or wherever you put it is, is > a pain. In the context of the email thread, no one in their sane mind will configure Amazon/Heroku/etc. VMs manually. They will use ansible/puppet/chef/etc. to install packages and to start services after they are installed and configured. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Most of the time you will need to configure your apache server before you can start it. -- Rui PauloReceived on Sat Jul 19 2014 - 00:36:46 UTC
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