Re: A proposal

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 06:11:10AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:52:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:15AM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Allan Jude <freebsd_at_allanjude.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 2014-03-29 01:22, Joe Nosay wrote:
> >>>>> I have noticed that options VPS, VIMAGE, and MROUTING are not standard
> >>>> for
> >>>>> the kernel with a base install. Is there any way that these can be made a
> >>>>> part of the normal kernel so that jail(s) would get the full benefit
> >>>>> without a kernel recompile?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> VIMAGE has some problems with PF. Martin Matu ska said at AsiaBSDCon
> >>>> that he had a patch that solves the issue.
> >>> 
> >>> Really, you say? That's good news.
> >>> So, will those options soon be standard for a first time install?
> >> 
> >> Certainly, hope not.  I don't use any of options.
> > 
> > So you use all the other devices and options of the GENERIC kernel?
> 
> Of course, not.  Not sure how you inferred such a thing.
> 
> IMHO, GENERIC should contain only those devices and options
> that are required to get FreeBSD booted on new hardware.
> VIMAGE and MROUTING aren't needed, and can be configured by
> the user after installation.  As for VPS, AFAICT, there isn't
> an option/device named VPS; at least 'find /sys/ -type f | xargs
> grep VPS' wasn't too enlightening.

Until freebsd-update deals with custom kernel configurations, people will
want all the possible non-conflicting flags enabled in GENERIC, or the
options made available as runtime loadable kernel modules.  It's not
an unreasonable request.

Regards,

Gary