Re: [CFT] ypldap testing against OpenLDAP and Microsoft Active Directory

From: Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov_at_mail.lifanov.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:03:55 -0400
On 06/14/2016 21:05, Marcelo Araujo wrote:
> 2016-06-15 8:17 GMT+08:00 Chris H <bsd-lists_at_bsdforge.com>:
> 
>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:55:58 +0800 Marcelo Araujo <araujobsdport_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the CFT Craig.
>>>
>>> 2016-06-09 14:41 GMT+08:00 Xin Li <delphij_at_delphij.net>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/8/16 23:10, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have worked with Marcelo Araujo to port OpenBSD's ypldap to FreeBSD
>>>>> current.
>>>>>
>>>>> In latest current, it should be possible to put in /etc/rc.conf:
>>>>>
>>>>> nis_ypldap_enable="YES"
>>>>> to activate the ypldap daemon.
>>>>>
>>>>> When set up properly, it should be possible to log into FreeBSD, and
>> have
>>>>> the backend password database come from an LDAP database such
>>>>> as OpenLDAP
>>>>>
>>>>> There is some documentation for setting this up, but it is OpenBSD
>>>> specific:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://obfuscurity.com/2009/08/OpenBSD-as-an-LDAP-Client
>>>>> http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/ypldap.html#2
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not bother porting the OpenBSD LDAP server to FreeBSD, so that
>>>>> information
>>>>> does not apply.  I figure that openldap from ports should work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if there is someone out there familiar enough with
>> LDAP
>>>>> and has a setup they can test this stuff out with, provide feedback,
>> and
>>>>> help
>>>>> improve the documentation for FreeBSD?
>>>>
>>>> Looks like it would be a fun weekend project.  I've cc'ed a potential
>>>> person who may be interested in this as well.
>>>>
>>>> But will this worth the effort? (I think the current implementation
>>>> would do everything with plaintext protocol over wire, so while it
>>>> extends life for legacy applications that are still using NIS/YP, it
>>>> doesn't seem to be something that we should recommend end user to use?)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can see two good point to use ypldap that would be basically for users
>>> that needs to migrate from NIS to LDAP or need to make some integration
>>> between legacy(NIS) and LDAP during a transition period to LDAP.
>>>
>>> As mentioned, NIS is 'plain text' not safe by its nature, however there
>> are
>>> still lots of people out there using NIS, and ypldap(8) is a good tool to
>>> help these people migrate to a more safe tool like LDAP.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I would also be interested in hearing from someone who can see if
>>>>> ypldap can work against a Microsoft Active Directory setup?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> All my tests were using OpenLDAP, I used the OpenBSD documentation to
>> setup
>>> everything, and the file share/examples/ypldap/ypldap.conf can be a good
>>> start to anybody that wants to start to work with ypldap(8).
>>>
>>> Would be nice hear from other users how was their experience using ypldap
>>> with MS Active Directory and perhaps some HOWTO how they made all the
>> setup
>>> would be amazing to have.
>>>
>>> Also, would be useful to know who are still using NIS and what kind of
>>> setup(user case), maybe even the reason why they are still using it.
>>
>> Honestly, I think the best way to motivate people to do the right thing(tm)
>> Would be to remove Yellow Pages from the tree, entirely. :-)
>> It's been dead for *years*, and as you say, isn't safe, anyway..
>>
> 
> Yes, I have a plan for that, but I don't believe it will happens before
> FreeBSD 12-RELEASE.
> 

Please don't, at least for now. NIS is fast, simple, reliable, and works
on first boot without additional software. I have passwords in
Kerberos, so the usual cons doesn't apply. This is very valuable to me.

It's not hurting anyone. What's the motivation behind removing it?

> 
>>
>> --Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> --
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marcelo Araujo            (__)araujo_at_FreeBSD.org
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