Re: [CFT] ypldap testing against OpenLDAP and Microsoft Active Directory

From: Outback Dingo <outbackdingo_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:50:41 -0400
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Marcelo Araujo <araujobsdport_at_gmail.com>
wrote:

> No worries Nikolai! If one day I will do it, will be on 12-RELEASE.
>
> Br,
>
> 2016-06-15 20:03 GMT+08:00 Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov_at_mail.lifanov.com>:
>
> > On 06/14/2016 21:05, Marcelo Araujo wrote:
> > > 2016-06-15 8:17 GMT+08:00 Chris H <bsd-lists_at_bsdforge.com>:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:55:58 +0800 Marcelo Araujo <
> > araujobsdport_at_gmail.com>
> > >> wrote
> > >>
> > >>> Hey,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the CFT Craig.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2016-06-09 14:41 GMT+08:00 Xin Li <delphij_at_delphij.net>:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 6/8/16 23:10, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have worked with Marcelo Araujo to port OpenBSD's ypldap to
> FreeBSD
> > >>>>> current.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In latest current, it should be possible to put in /etc/rc.conf:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> nis_ypldap_enable="YES"
> > >>>>> to activate the ypldap daemon.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> When set up properly, it should be possible to log into FreeBSD,
> and
> > >> have
> > >>>>> the backend password database come from an LDAP database such
> > >>>>> as OpenLDAP
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There is some documentation for setting this up, but it is OpenBSD
> > >>>> specific:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://obfuscurity.com/2009/08/OpenBSD-as-an-LDAP-Client
> > >>>>> http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/ypldap.html#2
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I did not bother porting the OpenBSD LDAP server to FreeBSD, so
> that
> > >>>>> information
> > >>>>> does not apply.  I figure that openldap from ports should work
> fine.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was wondering if there is someone out there familiar enough with
> > >> LDAP
> > >>>>> and has a setup they can test this stuff out with, provide
> feedback,
> > >> and
> > >>>>> help
> > >>>>> improve the documentation for FreeBSD?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Looks like it would be a fun weekend project.  I've cc'ed a
> potential
> > >>>> person who may be interested in this as well.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But will this worth the effort? (I think the current implementation
> > >>>> would do everything with plaintext protocol over wire, so while it
> > >>>> extends life for legacy applications that are still using NIS/YP, it
> > >>>> doesn't seem to be something that we should recommend end user to
> > use?)
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I can see two good point to use ypldap that would be basically for
> > users
> > >>> that needs to migrate from NIS to LDAP or need to make some
> integration
> > >>> between legacy(NIS) and LDAP during a transition period to LDAP.
> > >>>
> > >>> As mentioned, NIS is 'plain text' not safe by its nature, however
> there
> > >> are
> > >>> still lots of people out there using NIS, and ypldap(8) is a good
> tool
> > to
> > >>> help these people migrate to a more safe tool like LDAP.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I would also be interested in hearing from someone who can see if
> > >>>>> ypldap can work against a Microsoft Active Directory setup?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> All my tests were using OpenLDAP, I used the OpenBSD documentation to
> > >> setup
> > >>> everything, and the file share/examples/ypldap/ypldap.conf can be a
> > good
> > >>> start to anybody that wants to start to work with ypldap(8).
> > >>>
> > >>> Would be nice hear from other users how was their experience using
> > ypldap
> > >>> with MS Active Directory and perhaps some HOWTO how they made all the
> > >> setup
> > >>> would be amazing to have.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, would be useful to know who are still using NIS and what kind
> of
> > >>> setup(user case), maybe even the reason why they are still using it.
> > >>
> > >> Honestly, I think the best way to motivate people to do the right
> > thing(tm)
> > >> Would be to remove Yellow Pages from the tree, entirely. :-)
> > >> It's been dead for *years*, and as you say, isn't safe, anyway..
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yes, I have a plan for that, but I don't believe it will happens before
> > > FreeBSD 12-RELEASE.
> > >
> >
> > Please don't, at least for now. NIS is fast, simple, reliable, and works
> > on first boot without additional software. I have passwords in
> > Kerberos, so the usual cons doesn't apply. This is very valuable to me.
> >
> > It's not hurting anyone. What's the motivation behind removing it?
>


Removing NIS is a BAD idea, there are still plenty of people that use it,
and plenty of businesses rely on it, I still hear people asking for it



> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> --Chris
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Marcelo Araujo            (__)araujo_at_FreeBSD.org
> > >>> \\\'',)http://www.FreeBSD.org <http://www.freebsd.org/>   \/  \ ^
> > >>> Power To Server.         .\. /_)
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