On Friday, May 05, 2017 11:01:03 PM Toomas Soome wrote: > > > On 5. mai 2017, at 22:07, Julian Elischer <julian_at_freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > Subject says it all really, is this an option at this time? > > > > we'd like to try boot the main zfs root partition and then fall back to a small UFS based recovery partition.. is that possible? > > > > I know we could use grub but I'd prefer keep it in the family. > > > > > > > > > it is, sure. but there is an compromise to be made for it. > > Lets start with what I have done in illumos port, as the idea there is exactly about having as “universal” binaries as possible (just the binaries are listed below to get the size): > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root sys 171008 apr 30 19:55 bootia32.efi > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root sys 148992 apr 30 19:55 bootx64.efi > -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 1255 okt 25 2015 cdboot > -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 154112 apr 30 19:55 gptzfsboot > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root sys 482293 mai 2 21:10 loader32.efi > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root sys 499218 mai 2 21:10 loader64.efi > -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 512 okt 15 2015 pmbr > -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 377344 mai 2 21:10 pxeboot > -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 376832 mai 2 21:10 zfsloader > > the loader (bios/efi) is built with full complement - zfs, ufs, dosfs, cd9660, nfs, tftp + gzipfs. The cdboot is starting zfsloader (thats trivial string change). > > The gptzfsboot in illumos case is only built with zfs, dosfs and ufs - as it has to support only disk based media to read out the loader. Also I am building gptzfsboot with libstand and libi386 to get as much shared code as possible - which has both good and bad sides, as usual;) > > The gptzfsboot size means that with ufs the dedicated boot partition is needed (freebsd-boot), with zfs the illumos port is always using the 3.5MB boot area after first 2 labels (as there is no geli, the illumos does not need dedicated boot partition with zfs). > > As the freebsd-boot is currently created 512k, the size is not an issue. Also using common code does allow the generic partition code to be used, so GPT/MBR/BSD (VTOC in illumos case) labels are not problem. The intention btw of the larger size for gptboot is so we could have a merged gptboot / gptzfsboot. I don't think ZFS was in FreeBSD when gptboot was first written, but I would much rather have a merged gptboot binary that supports both. It just needs some logic for what to pick if it sees both. (It would also be nice to axe zfsloader and just pass a different KARGS_FLAG_FOO in to select ZFS as the default boot device to /boot/loader, but zfsloader is probably too baked into the system at this point.) > Also note that we can still build the smaller dedicated blocks like boot2, just that we can not use those blocks for more universal cases and eventually those special cases will diminish. Yes, the BSD label stuff is stuck with a smaller size, but GPT should support unified bootstraps. -- John BaldwinReceived on Mon May 08 2017 - 17:06:21 UTC
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