On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-rwg_at_pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > >> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman_at_gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Nick Hibma <nick_at_van-laarhoven.org >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > I created a new kernel config file from scratch, wondered what the >> > >> > GEOM_PART_MBR option and friends were doing, search for them, >> didn't >> > >> find >> > >> > them in the tree, and deleted them from my config. But... de >> resulting >> > >> disk >> > >> > image didn't boot, because of the fact that it didn't recognise >> the MBR >> > >> > partitions (it only had a single diskid entry on the mount-root >> prompt). >> > >> > >> > >> > Can anyone explain to me how these kernel options work, as in: >> they are >> > >> > defined in kernel configs and as a consequence in opt_geom.h, but >> how >> > >> are >> > >> > they actually used to select which geom_part_* modules/kernel >> parts to >> > >> > build? I thought these options were translated to stuff that cpp >> would >> > >> use, >> > >> > but there are not uses of for example GEOM_PART_MBR anywhere for >> > >> example! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The module always build them because they are listed in the >> module's >> > >> > Makefile. >> > >> > >> > >> > The kernel only sometimes does. Here's the key lines from >> conf/files: >> > >> > files:geom/geom_bsd_enc.c optional geom_bsd | geom_part_bsd >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_apm.c optional geom_part_apm >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_bsd.c optional geom_part_bsd >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_bsd64.c optional geom_part_bsd64 >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_ebr.c optional geom_part_ebr >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_gpt.c optional geom_part_gpt >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_ldm.c optional geom_part_ldm >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_mbr.c optional geom_part_mbr >> > >> > files:geom/part/g_part_vtoc8.c optional geom_part_vtoc8 >> > >> > >> > >> > which turn on/off which files get included. config "helpfully" >> converts >> > >> the >> > >> > upper case options to lower case for this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Warner >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *slaps forehead* Goose chase! >> > >> > >> > >> > I actually knew that... and, at the time, thought it was weird >> > >> behaviour. >> > >> > ''grep" would not have failed me if those options would be >> uppercase >> > >> there >> > >> > ... >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> I've been nibbled to death by these geese often enough to have a >> PTSD-like >> > >> reaction when someone mentions it and habitually add -i to my >> greps... >> > >> >> > >> Warner >> > > >> > > >> > > This horrid POLA violation seems to have been in FreeBSD configuration >> > > since at least 3.0 and probably goes back to the creation of the >> > > configuration process. >> > > >> > > Any idea why such a horrible POLA was ever introduced? Seems like an >> > > obviously bad idea in an OS that is ALMOST always case sensitive. >> > > >> > >> > It's received code from the old 4.3 BSD config program (or maybe the >> net-2 >> > config program). >> >> We had best not have any code direct from 4.3 or net-2, it should be from >> 4.4BSDLite, any code prior to that is subject of the lawsuit. >> >> >> -- >> Rod Grimes >> rgrimes_at_freebsd.org >> > > I believe any code in 4.3 BSD that was developed by CSRG was not subject > of the suit. Copyright on that code by the Regents of UC, not AT&T. (So was > any code I wrote.) Many utilities were from v8 or descended from AT&T code, > but a great deal was not. It was what UC was getting paid for. > Yea, the suit quickly devolved into the short list of files... v8 was from BSD that was reimported. That's clear from the TUHS archive. v8 is a big break from v7... WarnerReceived on Fri Sep 29 2017 - 15:18:14 UTC
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