Re: FreeBSD EFI projects

From: Toomas Soome <tsoome_at_me.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:45:56 +0300
> On 19 Sep 2018, at 18:31, Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd-rwg_at_pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Rodney W. Grimes 
>> <freebsd-rwg_at_pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Rodney W. Grimes
>>>> <freebsd-rwg_at_pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/18/18 4:11 AM, Greg V wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can confirm that the kernel already worked fine when booted 
>>>> from
>>>>>>> 32-bit EFI.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I booted an old Mac into HardenedBSD using a 32-bit-EFI build 
>>>> of
>>>>>> GRUB2 :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was that a 64-bit version of FreeBSD? My understanding is the 
>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>> FreeBSD boots fine, but 64-bit needs work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You would be hard pressed to find a system with a 64 bit CPU that
>>>>> could run 64 bit FreeBSD that had a 32 bit EFI implementation.
>>>> 
>>>> Mac mini 2006 with a Core2Duo instead of the stock CoreDuo (and the
>>>> 2007 model's firmware flashed, but I don't think that impacts 
>>>> FreeBSD).
>>> 
>>> Yes, that is one of the catagories of rare, a EFI-32 bit system that
>>> was originally shipped with a 32 bit only CPU, that later got upgraded
>>> in the field with a 64 bit CPU, that still runs a EFI-32 bios.
>>> Are you sure the 2007 firmware is EFI32?  I would of thought
>>> since they upgraded the base system to a 64 bit CPU they would
>>> of shipped it with a EFI-64 bios.
>> 
>> The EFI firmware is technically 64 bit? but it only boots 32-bit 
>> binaries.
>> 
>> https://everymac.com/mac-answers/snow-leopard-mac-os-x-faq/mac-os-x-snow-leopard-64-bit-macs-64-bit-efi-boot-in-64-bit-mode.html
>> 'Furthermore, it appears that although subsequently released MacBook, 
>> MacBook Air, and pre-"Mid-2010" Mac mini models all are equipped with 
>> "Core 2 Duo" 64-bit processors and 64-bit EFIs, Apple has blocked these 
>> "consumer-targeted" Macs from booting in 64-bit mode. iMac and MacBook 
>> Pro models released in 2007 with 64-bit EFIs seem to have been blocked 
>> as well.'
> 
> That is not EFI32, so that is not a test case for how FreeBSD boots                                                                                          
> on EFI32 systems.  That is a restriction apple artificially placed
> in the implementation.
> 
>>>> And probably just the 2007 model as well :)
>>>> 
>>>> Also, IIRC there were some Intel Atom tablets with 32-bit EFI.
>>> 
>>> Atom N2xx and Z5xx series Atom models cannot run x86-64
>> 
>> Atom Z3740 ? "Instruction Set: 64-bit"
>> https://ark.intel.com/products/76759/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3740-2M-Cache-up-to-1_86-GHz <https://ark.intel.com/products/76759/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3740-2M-Cache-up-to-1_86-GHz>
> 
> The above does not say Atom Z3xxx.  If you find a Atom
> N2xx or Z5xx based system it most certainly has a EFI32.
> 
>> 
>> The tablet in question: ASUS VivoTab Note 8 (M80TA)
>> https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/ <https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/>
> 
> I can not find enough detail to know for certain that tablet
> actually has which version of EFI.
> You are saying it has EFI32?  And if so based on what information?
> 

I have Lenovo MIIX-300 and it has UEFI32.

rgds,
toomas
Received on Wed Sep 19 2018 - 14:46:13 UTC

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