Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ?

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:56:27 -0500
Kyle Evans <kevans_at_freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot <manu_at_bidouilliste.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >  Hello all,
> > >
> > >  I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too)
> > > often.
> > >  If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz
> > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next
> > > tarball to be available.
> > >  Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that
> > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and
> > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too
> > > much.
> > >  Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of
> > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches.
> > >
> > >  Cheers,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Emmanuel Vadot <manu_at_bidouilliste.com> <manu_at_freebsd.org>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> >
> > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as
> > install images:
> > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/
> >
> > But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base,
> > kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like:
> > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/
> >
> 
> Yes, these are the parts he's talking about. My initial impression is
> that it'd be nice if we could (somehow) leverage Jenkins artifacts [0]
> to get even more frequent updates if we really needed to without
> significantly impacting re_at_ -- that's a little more difficult, though,
> because build breakage makes it hard to predict what the latest
> snapshot you can actually grab is, if any. Perhaps a script that
> creates a symlink to the 'last known functional across the board'
> revision periodically...
> 
> [0] http://artifacts.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/head/r361934/amd64/amd64/

 I haven't thought about using those, I'll see if I can come up with a
poudriere patch that could use this.
 Thanks for the idea :)

> > From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday
> > image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled
> > installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you
> > keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I must
> > say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily cent
> > snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images.
> >
> > But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his
> > hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you.
> >
> 
> This was brought up in a public forum, you should probably feel free
> to make non-obstructive comments like this to make sure a fairly
> common need is represented. The (light-hearted?) self-deprecation near
> the end of this makes me a bit uneasy- I certainly hope you didn't
> feel like it was mandatory to acknowledge that he's a developer and
> you're a hobbyist, because there's most assuredly more hobbyists (such
> as myself) lurking with similar needs/desires. =-)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kyle Evans
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Emmanuel Vadot <manu_at_bidouilliste.com> <manu_at_freebsd.org>