Re: New Xorg - different key-codes

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 04:53:32PM +0100, Michael Gmelin wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:36:42 -0500
> Bob Willcox <bob_at_immure.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:24:42AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:46:49PM +0100, Michael Gmelin wrote:  
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > SNIP SNAP
> > > > >> It might fix the ???Down key opens application launcher???
> > > > >> problem by applying the correct keymap (you have to select the
> > > > >> correct one, ???de??? probably won???t cut it for you). At
> > > > >> least it did with xfce, where it was important to run it
> > > > >> before the wm starts - you could also try running it
> > > > >> afterwards to see if it makes a difference.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't know about that problem. What I'm experiencing is the
> > > > > Alt-up,down,left,right keys don't work as they used to in my
> > > > > ctwm window manager. They used to move the current window to
> > > > > the closest boundry in the direction indicated by the key that
> > > > > is also pressed (while holding the Alt key down). Also,
> > > > > Alt-shift-up,down,left,right would expand the window in the
> > > > > direction indicated by the key. These actions seem to do
> > > > > nothing now. 
> > > > 
> > > > I don???t know much about ctwm, but why don???t you give it a
> > > > shot?  
> > > 
> > > I plan to sometime today when I get into the office. But since it's
> > > my work system and I am dependent on it to do my job, I've just
> > > been a little hesitant.  
> > 
> > Ok, I added this to my ~/.xinitrc file:
> > 
> > setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us
> > 
> > and my ctwm window adjustment hot keys are working again.  :)
> > 
> > I do wonder why it was deemed ok to change the default behavior for
> > the key mappings? Couldn't the default mappings have remained the
> > same with change to evdev? This change certainly violated the
> > "principle of least surprise" for me.
> > 
> >
> 
> I think the change was unavoidable, but it could've been communicated
> better. Then again, time and resources are limited and I'm quite
> grateful the graphics team finally made that necessary push forward.
> 
> I'm curious how people set their keyboard layout in the past though,
> is it possible that the defaults just worked for US users? I always had
> to set it explicitly (setxkbmap or in Xorg.conf), so I was never really
> affected by this change.
> 
> -m
> 
> p.s. What does "setxkbmap -query" show if you start X without setting
> the keymap in .xinitrc?

I'll have to try that when I get home tonight on one of my other systems as I really can't
afford to take the time to restart X on this system now...got to get some work done.  :)

Bob

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