Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 14:45 -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> > 
> > > Seriously, Warner?
> > 
> > Yes, seriously. We are adults.  Act accordingly.
> > 
> > Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out of line.
> > 
> > > I applaud Steve's message as being the first one in this thread that
> > > has any real value at all.  Unlike everyone else, he has clearly seen
> > > what the basic problem is (zero communications about this impending
> > > cutover to the people who need to work with it every day), and he
> > > summarized it in a completely practical way.
> > 
> > We disagree.  The message could have been worded without being negative.
> > 
> > > This assumption that everyone knows how to use git is mind-boggling.  I
> > > think I installed it once, a few years ago.  Then I uninstalled it
> > > because of how abysmally hard it was to try to learn even a few
> > > commands to do anything with it.
> > 
> > No, it's assumed you will learn. I did. We all can.
> > 
> > Please, we cooperate on this project. We don't attack, and yes, these were attacks. 
> > 
> > > I guess Steve & I are a couple dinosaurs and the whole rest of the
> > > freebsd user and committer community is laughing at our ignorance and
> > > thinking "we don't need their contributions anyway, so let's just mock
> > > them and move on."
> > 
> > I don't think so. I'm guessing I'm older and more set in my ways.
> > 
> > There are much better ways to communicate that in recent messages.
> > 
> 
> How typical:  trim away ALL context of what's being discussed, then
> claim that the material was offensive in some way after destroying the
> contextual evidence that makes a lie of your claim.

I apologize for the excessive trimming.

I regret posting, but still persist in my call for improved methods.

Umm, as for the rest... I don't know how to reply to that.

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  Dan Langille
  dan_at_langille.org