Re: Waiting for bufdaemon

From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander_at_leidinger.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 11:46:58 +0100
Quoting Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel_at_gmail.com> (from Fri, 5 Mar  
2021 22:43:58 +0200):

> On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 04:03:11PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:
>> Dear src committers,
>>
>> From: Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu_at_utahime.org>
>> Subject: Re: Waiting for bufdaemon
>> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:02:42 +0900 (JST)
>>
>> >>> I have been experiencing same problem with my 13-CURRENT amd64
>> >>> VirtualBox VM for about a month. The conditions that the problem
>> >>> happens are unclear and all what I can say is
>> >>>
>> >>> * It happens only after I login in the VM and do something for a
>> >>>   while. If I boot the VM and shut it down immediately, it never
>> >>>   happens.
>> >>> * When the problem happens, one or more unkillable processes seem to
>> >>>   be left.
>> >>
>> >> CPU of my host is not AMD but Intel. According to the
>> >> /var/run/dmesg.boot of VM, information of CPU is as following.
>> >>
>> >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU _at_ 3.00GHz (3000.09-MHz K8-class CPU)
>> >>   Origin="GenuineIntel"  Id=0x906ed  Family=0x6  Model=0x9e  Stepping=13
>> >>    
>> Features=0x1783fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
>> >>    
>> Features2=0x5eda2203<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,SSSE3,CX16,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,RDRAND>
>> >>   AMD Features=0x28100800<SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM>
>> >>   AMD Features2=0x121<LAHF,ABM,Prefetch>
>> >>   Structured Extended  
>> Features=0x842421<FSGSBASE,AVX2,INVPCID,NFPUSG,RDSEED,CLFLUSHOPT>
>> >>   Structured Extended Features3=0x30000400<MD_CLEAR,L1DFL,ARCH_CAP>
>> >>   IA32_ARCH_CAPS=0x29<RDCL_NO,SKIP_L1DFL_VME,MDS_NO>
>> >>   TSC: P-state invariant
>> >>
>> >> Just FYI.
>> >
>> > It took for a while to investigate, but according to the result of
>> > bisect following commit is the source of problem in my case.
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > commit 84eaf2ccc6a
>> > Author: Konstantin Belousov <kib_at_FreeBSD.org>
>> > Date:   Mon Dec 21 19:02:31 2020 +0200
>> >
>> >     x86: stop punishing VMs with low priority for TSC timecounter
>> >
>> >     I suspect that virtualization techniques improved from the  
>> time when we
>> >     have to effectively disable TSC use in VM.  For instance, it  
>> was reported
>> >     (complained) in https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/38877 that
>> >     FreeBSD is groundlessly slow on AWS with some loads.
>> >
>> >     Remove the check and start watching for complaints.
>> >
>> >     Reviewed by:    emaste, grehan
>> >     Discussed with: cperciva
>> >     Sponsored by:   The FreeBSD Foundation
>> >     Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D27629
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > I confirmed the problem still happens with 5c325977b11 but reverting
>> > above commit fixes it.
>>
>> Would someone please revert above commit from main, stable/13 and
>> releng/13.0? As I wrote previous mail I submitted this problem to
>> Bugzilla as bug 253087 and added the committer to Cc. But there is no
>> response for 34 days.
>>
>> I confirmed the problem still happens with 37cd6c20dbc of main and
>> 13.0-RC1.
>
> My belief is that this commit helps more users than it hurts.  Namely,
> the VMWare and KVM users, which are majority, use fast timecounter,
> comparing to the more niche hypervisors like VirtualBox.
>
> For you, a simple but manual workaround, setting the timecounter to
> ACPI (?) or might be HPET, with a loader tunable, should do it.

Do you propose this to him as a test if this solves the issue with the  
intend to change the code to use a more suitable TC if VirtualBox is  
detected?

Bye,
Alexander.

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