Re: Lucent IBSS mode doesn't work in -CURRENT?

At 11:51 PM -0600 2003/08/03, M. Warner Losh wrote:

>  In message: <20030804044432.GV95375_at_wantadilla.lemis.com>
>              "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog_at_freebsd.org> writes:
>
>  : On Thursday, 31 July 2003 at  9:30:31 +0200, Eirik Oeverby wrote:
>  : >
>  : > Oh and btw.. Get the *latest* firmware onto all your cards. That is
>  : > essential for anything to work right at all..
>  :
>  : That sounds wrong to me.  If it worked before, and it doesn't now,
>  : that's not the fault of the firmware.
>
>  Quit harping on it, ok.  We know there's a bug and carping like this
>  makes me less willing to find and fix it.

	I'm confused.  I agree that I have sometimes found Greg to be a 
bit annoying, but it seems to me that he's asking a perfectly 
legitimate question -- if things worked fine in the past (including 
the firmware versions at the time), and they don't work now, then why 
is a firmware update needed?

	I would ask:

		What changed so that things broke, and why can't we go back
		to the way things worked before?


	Please, this is a serious question.  I'm not running 5.x yet on 
my in-house server/laptop, but I hope to soon (once I get some more 
servers in the house on which I can be more conservative), and a 
Lucent WaveLAN gold is definitely one of the things I plan on 
sticking in there to play with.

	I really want this to work, and I don't understand how we got to 
the situation we're in today.  Can you explain things to me, perhaps 
in a somewhat simpler fashion, so that I might understand, and maybe 
even help?

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles_at_skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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