Re: mouse problems --WORKAROUND!!

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Chuck Robey wrote:

This one stinks, but until a better solution comes around, this gets me
off the ground.  What did it take?  Brooks (and I think one other person,
but I forget who) had reported they had no problem in running both, and by
god, that IS what works!  Run both!  That gets you at least a single mouse
running, which is a whole lot better than bupkis.

Who knows, maybe the extremely ill look of this fix might motivate a more
elegant solution from someone.  Maybe a miracle wil happen and I'll get a
chance to fix it myself (don't hold your breath).

OK, for those who've been bored, I'm finished.  For any of the horde of
folks I saw on the net, write me privately if you need to know more, I
offer whatever help I can, but do it soon, I get yet another surgery on
Monday, I won't be answering up so well on Tuesday.

With all these problems, FreeBSD still compares awfully well against
Linux.

I will take a chance to make one Linux-comment, tho, and all my recent
Linux exposure might make this more useful.  FreeBSD has done a good job
of improving rc, but I saw a better one.  The rc implementation done by
the folks at Linux's gentoo, well, its a programmer's wet dream.  They
have no business having such a nice rc, it's so BSD-ish it's funny.
Honestly, it's well worth a strong peak.

Someone at gentoo knows how to code in sh.

If anyone is more than curious about that, I migth be willing to see if I
can place some working examples on the net for you.  Strong curiosity,
from real programmers, is enough to motivate me (send me a ssh line).

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > > The PS/2 mouse is configured in /etc/rc.conf with the lines:
> > >
> > > moused_enable="YES"
> > > moused_flags=""
> > >
> > > and the USB mouse is handled by the default entrly in usbd.conf which is
> > > enabled in rc.conf with:
> > >
> > > usbd_enable="YES"
> >
> > VERY good, thanks for the response, please work with me here.  First, I'm
> > working with a brand new amd64 install, so my etc is hopefully (and more
> > properly, my rc.conf) up to date, it has a mouse_ports, but not a
> > moused_flags at all, so you may be working witha customized etc ... no big
> > surprise.  I interpolated, tried your settings, on reboot I have no
> > /dev/psm0 device.  I looked at the psm man page, and I dolled up the
> > /boot/loader.conf as instructed.  on reboot, kenv reports what I would
> > want to see, but still no /dev/psm0 (which is why, I suppose, I have only
> > a single moused process running, the usbd.conf inspired one.  That one,
> > the mouse cursor still disappears the moment I touch the keyboard..
> >
> > That info I did, I tried both with and without the atkbdc hint in the mail
> > archives.
> >
> > I notice, btw, that the usb (ums0) gets probed by the kernel well, well
> > before rc.conf gets asked about psm0 ... I bet that timing is something
> > that, if I could change, might help things.  I would like the psm to get
> > started before the usb one.
>
> Bad etiquete to reply to myself, but I had more ideas, and I tried them.
> I'm again at an end, but I have this to add: I went in and deleted the
> ums0 entry from usbd.conf, so that it won't get attached; if I use the
> serial converter so that my keyboard and mouse are serial, then /dev/psm0
> does get created; if ums0 is being cteaed first, then /dev/psm0 is
> unavailble to the system for some reason, I can't get it created later on.
> I need some method to delay the usb processing for the keyboard and mouse
> combo UNTIL all of the PS/2 processing is finished.
>
> Obviously, /dev/psm0 and /dev/ums0 get along poorly.
>
> BTW, yes, I tried adding the ums0 back after I had the good (?)
> /dev/psm0, again, the mouse cursor disappears the moment I touch the
> keyboard.  It flickers to life, and is immediately gone.  I don't
> understand abou that, your notion about running two moused processes was
> aluring.
>
> Funny point?  for the PS/2 case, rc.conf is NOT making a moused process.
> That's not working.  OK, that's something I can investigate.
>
> Again, if anyone thinks they know all of the steps to completely delete
> the ps/2 mouse an dkeyboard from the system (leaving me the usb ones) let
> me know, I'll try anything that looks like a complete task list.
>
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> Chuck Robey         | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
> chuckr_at_chuckr.org   | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy.
>
> New Year's Resolution:  I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up
> fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity,
> Signa Phi Nothing).
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Chuck Robey         | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
chuckr_at_chuckr.org   | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy.

New Year's Resolution:  I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up
fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity,
Signa Phi Nothing).
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