Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Sep, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Don Lewis wrote: >> >>>I've been experimenting with Peter Holm's kernel stress test suite and >>>file system snapshots. I've been frequently seeing system deadlocks, so >>>I went looking for the cause. >>> >>>In the latest instance, there were 12 threads waiting on "snaplk", and >>>the thread holding "snaplk" was sleeping on "wdrain". Two of the >>>threads waiting on "snaplk" were syncer and bufdaemon, which is not a >>>good sign. >>> >>>Ordinarily, I/O activity should eventually reduce runningbufspace below >>>lorunningspace and wake up the thread sleeping on "wdrain", but this is >>>where the problem gets interesting. The stack trace of the thread >>>sleeping on "wdrain" is: >>> >>>#0 0xc0653913 in sched_switch (td=0xc23fe300, newtd=0xc2275480, flags=1) >>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:973 >>>#1 0xc0649158 in mi_switch (flags=1, newtd=0x0) >>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:356 >>>#2 0xc066073c in sleepq_switch (wchan=0x0) >>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:427 >>>#3 0xc0660920 in sleepq_wait (wchan=0xc0984404) >>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:539 >>>#4 0xc0648dc9 in msleep (ident=0xc0984404, mtx=0xc0984420, priority=68, >>> wmesg=0xc0876f1c "wdrain", timo=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:227 >>>#5 0xc0687592 in bufwrite (bp=0xd648f558) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:383 >>>#6 0xc0687bbd in bawrite (bp=0x0) at buf.h:401 >>>#7 0xc077ca98 in ffs_copyonwrite (devvp=0xc2933770, bp=0xd6543e90) >>> at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c:2119 >>>#8 0xc0788ec5 in ffs_geom_strategy (bo=0xc2933830, bp=0xd6543e90) >>> at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1686 >>>#9 0xc068750e in bufwrite (bp=0xd6543e90) at buf.h:415 >>>#10 0xc0788e32 in ffs_bufwrite (bp=0xd6543e90) >>> at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1663 >>>#11 0xc0775a09 in ffs_update (vp=0xc5095cc0, waitfor=0) at buf.h:401 >>>#12 0xc0793670 in ufs_mkdir (ap=0xeb785bb8) >>> at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1556 >>>#13 0xc08149e7 in VOP_MKDIR_APV (vop=0xc0910b60, a=0xeb785bb8) >>> >>> >>>The problem is that bufs passed through ffs_copyonwrite() get double >>>counted in runningbufspace, once for each pass through bufwrite(). This >>>includes the bufs being processed by all the threads that are waiting on >>>"snaplk". If enough threads get backed up waiting for "snaplk", the >>>total size bufs they are processing will exceed lorunningspace and any >>>threads sleeping on wdrain will sleep forever. >>> >>>Probably the easiest fix would be to call runningbufwakeup() from >>>ffs_copyonwrite() before grabbing "snaplk", and increase runningbufspace >>>again before returning from ffs_copyonwrite(). The bufs waiting for >>>"snaplk" aren't yet async writes currently running, to borrow from the >>>comment on waitrunningbufspace(). >> >>This sounds like a problem I've had with snapshot creation taking hours >>on a large filesystem. I've seen the same thing, but simply waited and >>eventually it would complete, however during the process, many processes >>were held in the SNAPLK state, while others were idle in wdrain. I'm >>currently running 5-STABLE on this box. > > > I don't know if this has the same cause or if there is another problem. > It would be useful to know what the thread that is creating the snapshot > is doing during this time. What things is it waiting on? I've seen various states, but here's what I currently see when doing the mksnap_ffs command, and while that is running, doing something in another window that accesses the partition in some way: mksnap_ffs toggles between biord and biowr, mostly in biord state: 10410 root 1 -8 0 1308K 736K biord 0:00 0.00% mksnap_ffs Here's what an 'ls -al /mnt/' does while mksnap is running on /mnt mounted partition. It will block until the snapshot finishes (or nearly finishes): 10425 anderson 1 -4 0 1632K 964K ufs 0:00 0.00% ls Same with doing a 'cd /mnt', not surprisingly: 10431 anderson 1 -4 0 2340K 1808K ufs 0:00 0.00% bash If you need a ktrace or something else more detailed, let me know what you want. Here's how I reproduce this: dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 oseek=4000m of=/tmp/test-snapshot mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /tmp/test-snapshot newfs /dev/md0 mount /dev/md0 /mnt time mksnap_ffs /mnt /mnt/SNAP000 Now, while the mksnap_ffs is running, do anything to the /mnt area, and it will hang until the snapshot is done, which is a long time. From what I've read, McKusick describes how it should only hold processes from writing during a few stages, which should be very fast anyhow, yet it blocked for about 2 hours while the mksnap was running: Window A: [ 00:33:45 root_at_neutrino ~ ]# time mksnap_ffs /mnt /mnt/SNAP real 113m48.075s user 0m0.000s sys 0m14.256s [ 02:27:50 root_at_neutrino ~ ]# Window B: [ 00:35:15 44 ~/ ]$ ls -al /mnt/ total 1203062 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Oct 1 00:34 . drwxr-xr-x 38 root wheel 1024 Sep 28 19:13 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 Oct 1 00:26 .snap -r-------- 1 root wheel 2147483648000 Oct 1 01:59 SNAP [ 01:59:20 45 ~/ ]$ I'm currently running -CURRENT from right before you committed your patches, so I'm going to update and try after your patches and see how things act, and report back. Thanks for looking at this. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------Received on Sat Oct 01 2005 - 22:22:00 UTC
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