Re: raid framework from OpenBSD

From: Christian Brueffer <chris_at_unixpages.org>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 08:59:36 +0200
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:53:34AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> Joao Barros wrote:
> >On 9/14/05, Scott Long <scottl_at_samsco.org> wrote:
> >
> >>Massimo wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would like to know what do you think about new OpenBSD raid framework
> >>>management.
> >>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062
> >>>
> >>>Doesn't it seems good stuff which is good for consideration?
> >>>
> >>>Regards.
> >>
> >>Creating a unified management tool for multiple RAID architectures has
> >>been a Holy Grail for at least 10 years, if not longer.  It's
> >>deceptively hard, though.  While it sounds straight-forward and is
> >>relatively easy to do for 1 or 2 architectures, the vast differences in
> >>how different architectures work makes it quickly turn into a huge mess.
> >>This is especially true when it comes to topology discovery and
> >>management and asynchronous event notification.  Often times the only
> >>course is to degrade to a very simple, lowest common denominator
> >>interface, which then starts to limit the usefulness of the tool.  I've
> >>been involved in several professional projects in exactly this area, and
> >>it simply is very, very hard to do well. The OpenBSD work looks
> >>interesting, but unless they can demostrate useful operation on more
> >>than 1 or 2 architectures, it's not terribly impressive.  That's not to
> >>say that it can't be done and be a success, but the amount of required
> >>effort should not be underestimated. It's relatively easy to come up
> >>with a framework and implement one architecture module in it, then tell
> >>everyone else to simply add more modules.
> >>
> >>Also, it's not clear from the email whether the tool has to be manually
> >>told to rescan and look for changes in the state of the array (not just
> >>SES/SAFTE changes of the component drives).  Displaying status on demand
> >>is fine, but what admin sits in front of their terminal and refreshes
> >>their monitoring apps every 5 seconds?  The key is to have a an event
> >>notification pipeline that can collect events in near real time, filter
> >>them in a configurable way, and send out email/pager alerts when
> >>appropriate.  Also, what does this mean for a datacenter full of
> >>machines that need to be monitored?  Does a remote terminal session need
> >>to be opened on each one in order for monitoring to work?
> >>
> >>But, even if this particular work degrades into only being a tool for
> >>AMI (I assume they mean MegaRAID) controllers, it's still useful and I
> >>give them credit for doing it.
> >
> >
> >Having an amr I'm most interested in this, as I guess more people are.
> >Given that there is "customer" interest, my question is: is there
> >interest from you in this, having it imported to FreeBSD?
> >I've looked at the code and I wouldn't mind starting to work on this.
> >
> >--
> >Joao Barros
> 
> Give it a try if you're interested.
> 

FYI, here's a kerneltrap.org article about it.  Looks certainly
interesting.

http://kerneltrap.org/node/5649

- Christian

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