On Wednesday 09 January 2008, Mark Linimon said: > I appreciate the fact that you took the time to write this post and > raise serious issues in a non-confrontational manner. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:20:13AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > Even minimal I/O load on a hard disk suffices to lock up whole > > systems. Posts on the mailinglists current and stable have often > > been answered with denial or have simply been ignored. > > The responses on the mailing lists can indeed vary in quality. My > own experience is that many of the key FreeBSD developers respond > fairly well -- when they've got time to do so. Some exceptions > exist. But I don't think any one person is working on amd64 to the > exclusion of i386. Perhaps that is what it would take. > > Other than trying to identify individuals whose responses are doing > more harm than good, I don't have any suggestions here. > > > What we think might be a solution to the regression problem, > > would be the establishing of a Regressions Team, similar to other > > teams like the Security Team. > > Unfortunately it requires volunteers to constitute such a thing. > I've been trying to come up with ideas on how to get more people > involved in what we would consider 'maintainence' activities, but > I've yet to make an impact. A few people have expressed interest > in helping to go through the PR backlog, but the big shortage is > committers who are willing to work with them on such unglamorous > tasks. (I am working on a proposal to at least make it less > frustrating to do so, but I don't want to tie that into this > thread.) > > Having said that, I would join such a team and try to work with it. > > > PRs remain unanswered or the reporters are told that the > > regressions they report do not exist. > > We clearly have a disconnect on PRs. More come in than we have any > way to handle. This is clearly most distressing when the PRs > contain patches and/or test cases. Again, I'm open to ideas on how > to set up something where more people can participate. > > I've tried to flag certain PRs with '(regression)', fwiw, which is > necessary but clearly insufficient. Why don't we have more bugathons? While they might be a hassle to coordinate, we seem to get a lot accomplished. I can't speak for other committers, but I would be willing to donate time to help with the backlog. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech_at_FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Received on Thu Jan 10 2008 - 06:31:47 UTC
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