Re: WITHOUT_TELNET=yes .. does it work?

On Wednesday 18 November 2009 3:05:00 pm b. f. wrote:
> >On 18 Nov 2009, at 14:01, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> >> Robert Watson <rwatson at FreeBSD.org> writes:
> >>> Olivier Smedts <olivier at gid0.org> writes:
> >>>> But someone (you, me...) can file a PR to add them to OLD_FILES
> >>>> when WITHOUT_TELNET is set to yes, like it's done for some other
> >>>> WITHOUT_ options.
> >>>
> >>> If it's done for other WITHOUT_ options, it's not obvious to me.
> >>
> >> tools/build/mk/OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc
> >>
> >> Poor placement IMHO, we shouldn't have dependencies from src into
> >> tools.
> >
> >Its obscure location explains why it doesn't work. :-) Maybe it
>
> Not altogether: it works fine, for those knobs that developers have
> seen fit to support in the file.  The problem is that some developers
> neglect it entirely.
>
> >should be src/OptionalFiles.inc? That said, it still sounds like a
> > >significant maintenance problem to me: we have a lot of >WITHOUT_
> > options, and they may have non-trivial interactions...
>
> Being aware of what is built, and what is installed, is part of
> maintaining the base system
> is little more than writing down information that developers should
> already have determined if they are properly supporting the various
> base system knobs.  

+10

> Along with the knobs, it's very useful to those 
> of us who want to remove unneeded parts of the base system, and I
> wish it was more conscientiously maintained.  Let's not exaggerate
> the difficulties involved in doing so.

+10

> For the fellow who was concerned about removing his SSH port: yes,
> it's something to consider.  But you are not obliged to run make
> delete-old[-libs], and even if you do want to run it, you can do so
> without defining WITHOUT_SSH.
>
> Regards,
>            b.

Best Regards
Gonzalo Nemmi