Re: x.0 RELASE isn't for production.

2011/10/15 Martin Sugioarto <martin_at_sugioarto.com>

> Am Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:55:28 +0400
> schrieb Pavel Timofeev <timp87_at_gmail.com>:
>
> > That's what most people think.
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm not thinking this. This is made up by users who only adapt slowly
> to changes and features. Look at the whole crowd which got furious about
> the new Microsoft Office. I tell you, in one year, no one will cry about
> it anymore. Sometimes, I feel like I am the only who is happy about good
> ideas, even when they change something drastically. The most people
> think "Whoa... I have to learn again!"... and then silently accept it
> when it is very late, because everyone else already migrated.
>
No, i don't care about new features or big changes. I love it!
I care about bugs, that people finds while BETA/RC.


>
> This has nothing to do with release quality, because the efforts to
> make a production release of x.0 are much higher, in my opinion. So the
> quality is generally better, if you have enough time to make this
> release.
>
> For me the worst FreeBSD release ever was 5.3. Even 5.0 BETAs worked
> better on my hardware. I also stopped using FreeBSD at that time until
> 7.0 BETAs arrived.
>
> > And when BETA/RC time comes users rush like mad to test it. And they
> > find errors and bugs. Writing PR, emails and even !pathes!
> > But the lion's share of these pathes doesn't get into the coming BETA
> > or RC.
>
> Yes. I'm waiting for my /sbin/dump fix to get verified and committed.
> It's really disappointing to see the next release without a functioning
> backup possibility (for my configuration here).
>

kern/160678? A good example.
I give 5$ that this fix won't be in 9.0 RELEASE =)
I know a few other important PRs that won't be in 9.0 RELEASE.
Thats why I wrote initial email.


> Fortunately, I don't see a fixed release date, yet. I hope the
> developers fix as much as possible even when we see 9.0R in late 2012.
>
> --
> Martin
>