Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:47:36AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton <dougb_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
> >> schedule.
> >
> > Um, no?
> 
> ...
> 
> > What _would_ be useful is what should have been done many years ago when
> > it was first suggested: Move the pkg_* tools to ports.
> 
> It already exists -- it's just out of date / crufty:
> 
> $ make describe
> pkg_install-20090902|/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_install|/usr/local|FreeBSD
> -STABLE version of the package
> tools|/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_install/pkg-descr|portmgr_at_FreeBSD.org|ports-mgmt||||||http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/
> 
> > It's too late for 9.1 already, but if you made that change today in
> > HEAD, and after 9.1 (but before 8.4) you MFC it to stable/[89], then you
> > could theoretically make pkg mandatory after 9.1 EOLs.
> >
> > To make my point more clear, the ports tree has to support the last
> > release to ship with pkg_* tools in the base throughout its lifetime. To
> > do anything else would be be a massive POLA violation.
> 
> Agreed.
> Thanks,
> -Garrett

Let's rephrase the plan:

1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current to be able to have
a fully pkgng only 10-RELEASE
2/ switch 9.2 (the ports tree) to pkgng (but keep pkg_* tools maybe drop them,
but that is to be discussed to avoid POLA
3/ do the same for 8

once all of our supported release are fully pkgng aware and all the pkg_*
release are EOLed, drop support for pkg_* tools from the ports tree.

regards,
Bapt