Re: FreeBSD 10 and zfsd

On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:41:06 -0500
Mark Felder <feld_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 12:40, Allan Jude wrote:
> > On 2013-10-10 13:26, Alan Somers wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Allan Jude
> > > <freebsd_at_allanjude.com> wrote:
> > >> On 2013-10-10 12:13, Mark Felder wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 10:24, Alan Somers wrote:
> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johan Hendriks
> > >>>> <joh.hendriks_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> When i started using ZFS on FreeBSD I quickly found out that
> > >>>>> hot spares are not possible on FreeBSD.
> > >>>>> I was told that with zfsd it should be possible and that it
> > >>>>> would be included in FreeBSD 10.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is there some info about the zfsd function and how it could
> > >>>>> be used?
> > >>>> zfsd is currently not in FreeBSD/head and won't make it into
> > >>>> 10, but you can still get the source code from its project
> > >>>> branch.  It's being used in production by at least two
> > >>>> companies.
> > >>>>
> > >>> So FreeBSD is going to have inferior ZFS management compared to
> > >>> Solaris/Illumos/etc for another 2+ years? Why are things like
> > >>> this allowed to miss releases?
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> > >> ZFSd was a big topic of discussion at the EuroBSDCon 2013 dev
> > >> summit (3 weeks ago). There is a lot of collaboration going on,
> > >> to bring in some work done by vendors like SpectraLogics. This
> > >> is the type of feature that can be assed in 10.1, it won't have
> > >> to wait for 11.
> > >>
> > >> You can see Robert Watsons talk "How FreeBSD Works" to see why
> > >> releases are based on date, rather than on feature completion
> > >> (because things are never "finished")
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Allan Jude
> > >>
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> > > Due to popular demand, I have located a round toit.  I'm currently
> > > working on rebasing the zfsd project branch to head, after which
> > > I'll push SpectraLogic's recent changes.
> > See, all you have to do is complain loudly enough :p
> > 
> 
> I was sad more than anything. I'd been waiting for zfsd since the
> project was announced. :-) I'm glad to know we won't have to wait
> until 11.0.
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Ha!

Very funny. I created a RAIDZ1 pool and by reading the man page for
zpool, which states precisely how to create a hot spare for a given
pool. I wasn't aware until now that this action was useless, and even
dangerous. Well, bravo, I must admit, the man page does not give any
kind of warning that one can not rely on a hot spare.

oh