Re: newcons comming

I think we should provide option - use beta-newcons or old.
Linux in top is not because it's better, but because it has solution. Not even finished but at least some solutions.

On Friday 25 October 2013 06:43:54 Adrian Chadd wrote:
> 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready
> for MFC for a 10.1 release.
> 4) Delay 10.0 until this has matured enough in HEAD, then release it.
> 
> I really want to see more updated xorg support but the timing of it all
> feels a little overly rushed for a 10.0 release target.
> 
> What do others think?
> 
> 
> 
> -adrian
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 October 2013 06:39, Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:29:37 -0700
> > Adrian Chadd <adrian_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet?
> > >
> >
> > Lets do it "really ready" :)))
> >
> > I'am free on that, I can merge or not merge it to 10.0. But x11 team
> > depend on newcons presence, otherwise no new Xorg, no KMS drivers, no
> > new cairo (IIRC), no new ......
> >
> > So we have two way:
> > 1. delay it to 11.0
> > 2. make it ready to 10.0
> >
> > Select one you like more! :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -adrian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 October 2013 06:04, Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_freebsd.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300
> > > > Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_ddteam.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello fellow hackers!
> > > > >
> > > > > I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of
> > > > > syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of
> > > > > style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to
> > > > > enable shiny new Xorg features, drivers, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I ask everyone to look "hard" into that[1] and tell me your
> > opinion.
> > > > > I expect a lot of opinions, since it have to affect almost all good
> > > > > guys, as result I have to ask to split "bug reports" into two parts:
> > > > > 1. Should be done before merge to 10.0;
> > > > > 2. Can be done later.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it possible, please do it(review - report) ASAP.
> > > > > I have plan to done it that way:
> > > > > 1. Merge newcons to head (in a few days);
> > > > > 2. Fix a lot of reported bugs (2 hrs :-D );
> > > > > 3. Persuade re_at_ about we need it in 10.0 (one week, maybe two);
> > > > > 4. Merge to 10.0;
> > > > > 5. One year AFK somewhere on Bahamas;^W^W^W^W^W^W^W
> > > > > 5. Add mouse cut-paste support;
> > > > > 6. Fix new bugs;
> > > > > 7. Some drinks.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do we will have with newcons:
> > > > > * (Think it is main) Allow us to switch to fresh Xorg, which require
> > > > > KMS.
> > > > > * Graphic devices which can provide framebuffer access can be easily
> > > > > used as virtual terminals (someone may have pixel-LCD on front of PC
> > > > > tower, may found it useful :-D )
> > > > > * See [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > TODO:
> > > > > * Lack of key mapping files, everyone can help with that using
> > > > > instructions on [3];
> > > > > * A bit slow (mostly scrolling affected).
> > > > > * Other bugs :)
> > > > > * See [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] - http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/user/ed/newcons/
> > > > > [2] -
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-07-2013-09.html#Continuation-of-the-Newcons-Project
> > > > > [3] -
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://raybsd.blogspot.com/2013/10/newcons-international-keyboard-input.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope you will love newcons!
> > > > > And maybe me too :)
> > > > >
> > > > > WBW
> > > > > --
> > > > > Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_ddteam.net>
> > > >
> > > > Forget to give a patch to HEAD, here it is:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~ray/newcons/newcons_to_head_r257107_2013-10-25_1542.diff.gz
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all!
> > > >
> > > > WBW
> > > > --
> > > > Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_freebsd.org>
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> > WBW
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> > Aleksandr Rybalko <ray_at_freebsd.org>
> >
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