On 24.02.14 13:47, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I don't believe BSD users use base system of itself to send and receive email. They use ports (FreeBSD) or equivalent in other BSDs. One of the beauties of the BSD 'base system' is that upon installation you have an usable workstation/server environment that can be immediately used for most Internet-related tasks -- and this most certainly includes SMTP. Or NTP. Or... used to include DNS. We can strip pieces of FreeBSD off and end up with an kernel. Or we could keep the system very much usable out of the box. Indeed, the current integration of sendmail is far from optimal. In fact, BIND was better integrated but is now gone. NTP is also pretty well integrated -- it is nice to have ready access to such tools on *any* FreeBSD system. If one needs to strip down FreeBSD, there are already plenty of tools to do it, including WITHOUT_SENDMAIL. One of the many problems with removing functionality is very well illustrated by what happens now, when you upgrade an pre-10 system running nameserver: you end up without it and eventually without your nameserver database as well. Imagine, one day a user updates their 10-stable to 11-stable only to find out mail is no more. Currently, without any user configuration, sendmail is run in send-only mode. You need to explicitly request for it to not run at all. If there is suitable replacement that performs the tasks the send-only sendmail does, I see no problem to remove it. Or at least make it non-default for a release or two. The only remaining issue to solve is "I just upgraded FreeBSD and now mail is not working". Perhaps by installing sendmail with pkg if it is requested in rc.conf? DanielReceived on Mon Feb 24 2014 - 14:10:28 UTC
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