In message <ACBDDBE2-34C5-4F8D-8803-D42686C526C7_at_orthanc.ca>, Lyndon Nerenberg writes: >On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk_at_phk.freebsd.dk> = >wrote: > >> Bullshit. > >Sounds like your week didn't get off to a good start. No, I'm simply calling your argument bullshit, because it is. >> You got FreeBSD in there in the first place, there clearly >> is some kind of aperture through which software can migrate. > >Yes, we walk in a DVD-ROM with a FreeBSD installation image on it. So put your packages on there as well, if they're not already there (did you even check ?) Or do a "cd /usr/ports && make fetch" and write a (number of ?) DVD's with the resulting distfiles, and carry those behind the firewall, knowing that you have 20k pieces of software including NetHack and and an INTERCAL compiler, so you will never be bored, no matter how long airgap remains open. I've been doing exactly that since 1998 and I know it is both trivially easy and wonderfully assuring to the customer when you can tell them: "*All* the source code is here, and you are running a system verifiably compiled from it." Just recently one of those old but still running FreeBSD systems were plucked out for a random audit. They found the CD's in storage, installed the FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a machine, also from storage, recompiled everything from sources, built the embedded image, installed the image and passed all the test-cases. And yes, now we're talking about a much overdue upgrade. QED: Bullshit. And no, we obviously should not move /bin/sh to ports, but software maintained by compet^H^H^H^H^H^capable projects outside of FreeBSD should not be imported into FreeBSD absent compelling reasons, and already imported software should be constantly scrutinized to see if there are better solutions. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk_at_FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.Received on Mon Feb 24 2014 - 16:04:42 UTC
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