On 2018-Jun-30, at 10:04 AM, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2018-Jun-30, at 9:29 AM, John Baldwin <jhb at FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >> On 6/30/18 9:17 AM, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2018-Jun-30, at 7:51 AM, John Baldwin <jhb at FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/29/18 2:37 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >>>>> [I expect this is more than just amd64-gcc related but that is all >>>>> that ci.freebsd.org normally builds via a devel/*-gcc .] >>>> >>>> As indicated by my other mail, this is i386 and amd64 specific as it >>>> only matters for float.h on i386 due to the disagreement on >>>> LDBL_MANT_DIG. >>> >>> I was correct about the search order for include files being >>> different before -r335782 vs. -r335782 and later: >> >> Yes, but this is kind of a feature, not a bug, and the issue there is that >> as much as possible we should allow FreeBSD to work with the standard headers >> that are supposed to be part of the language (and thus provided by the >> toolchain). Right now we don't ship any of the 'std*.h' headers clang >> provides for example in our base system clang, though a few months ago I >> fixed the one place that was using <machine/stdarg.h> instead of >> <stdarg.h> in userland that was breaking the use of the toolchain-provided >> stdarg.h (both GCC and clang). >> >>> Might this reversal have other effects even for >>> architectures for which the code does compile >>> via devel/*-gcc ? >> >> It depends on the header. This particular failure is due to a quirk of >> <float.h> on FreeBSD/i386. I have built other platforms with external >> GCC just fine. To the extent that we encounter any other issues we >> should try to make our source more conformant with C and only fall back to >> axeing the toolchain-provided language headers as a last resort. > > It is too bad that the review https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16055 did not > catch the change in what headers are used by buildworld and buildkernel. > I'd view such switching of long established header bindings as a > fairly big deal, possibly even warranting being explicitly proposed and > debated. > > I'm not claiming my opinion on which search order that I have is > actually relevant. I'm just now nervous about my powerpc64-gcc based > builds having unexpected differences, for example. [I sometimes explore > the status of powerpc family builds via more modern toolchains.] > > (But lib32 for powerpc64 via modern gcc's is messed up anyway, > generating code in crtbeginS.o for the wrong ABI: using R30 incorrectly. > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=206123 has more about > that.) Looks like my being nervous is justified: there is a conflicting altivec.h that has nothing to do with C/C++ language standards: # ls /usr/local/lib/gcc/powerpc64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/include/ altivec.h htmxlintrin.h ppc-asm.h spe.h stdarg.h stddef.h stdint.h varargs.h float.h iso646.h ppu_intrinsics.h spu2vmx.h stdatomic.h stdfix.h stdnoreturn.h vec_types.h htmintrin.h paired.h si2vmx.h stdalign.h stdbool.h stdint-gcc.h tgmath.h I've not checked for other name conflicts vs. FreeBSD. I just happen to recognize altivec.h . There is: /usr/obj/powerpc64vtsc_xtoolchain-gcc/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/powerpc.powerpc64/tmp/usr/include/machine/altivec.h /usr/obj/powerpc64vtsc_xtoolchain-gcc/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/powerpc.powerpc64/tmp/usr/lib/clang/6.0.0/include/altivec.h /usr/obj/powerpc64vtsc_xtoolchain-gcc/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/powerpc.powerpc64/obj-lib32/tmp/usr/include/machine/altivec.h === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)Received on Sat Jun 30 2018 - 15:19:36 UTC
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