Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes <
freebsd-rwg_at_gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:

> >
> > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to
> FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of
> our CFT.
>
> Then please it is "CFT: FreeNAS/TrueOS pkg base, ZFS only",
> calling this FreeBSD pkg base when it is not was wrong,
> and miss leading.
>

Sorry, I disagree. This pkg base is independent of the ZFS tool we're using
to wrangle boot-environments. Hence why it wasn't mentioned in the CFT.
These base packages work the same as existing in-tree pkg base on UFS, no
difference. If anything are probably safer due to being able to update all
of userland in single extract operation, so you don't have out of order
extraction of libc or some such.


>
> > For UFS, there will need to be additional care taken when doing updates.
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goran Meki? <meka_at_tilda.center>
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM
> > To: Kris Moore <kris_at_ixsystems.com>
> > Cc: Emmanuel Vadot <manu_at_bidouilliste.com>; FreeBSD Stable <
> freebsd-stable_at_freebsd.org>; FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org>;
> freebsd-pkgbase_at_freebsd.org; freebsd-pkg_at_freebsd.org;
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> > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote:
> > > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this.
> > > It performs updates using Boot-Environments to ensure that
> > > kernel/world are updated at same time.
> >
> > If I'm right, UFS doesn't support boot environments, so how would it
> work for UFS based installs?
> >
> > I personally feel GO is a bit ackward choice of language for something
> that practically should be part of base. At least I would expect OS
> update/upgrade not to require any external package.
> >
> > Regards,
> > meka
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