Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes <
> freebsd-rwg_at_gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to
> > FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of
> > our CFT.
> >
> > Then please it is "CFT: FreeNAS/TrueOS pkg base, ZFS only",
> > calling this FreeBSD pkg base when it is not was wrong,
> > and miss leading.
> >
> 
> Sorry, I disagree.
Which is fine.

> This pkg base is independent of the ZFS tool we're using
> to wrangle boot-environments. Hence why it wasn't mentioned in the CFT.
> These base packages work the same as existing in-tree pkg base on UFS, no
> difference. If anything are probably safer due to being able to update all
> of userland in single extract operation, so you don't have out of order
> extraction of libc or some such.

You missed the major string change and focused on the edge,
No comment on calling iXsystems :stuff: FreeBSD instead of FreeNAS/TrueOS?

That was the major point of my statement, your miss leading the user
community, you yourself said this would never be imported into FreeBSD
base, so I see no reason that it should be called "FreeBSD package Base",
as it is not, that is a different project.

> > > For UFS, there will need to be additional care taken when doing updates.
> > >
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> > > Kris Moore
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Goran Meki? <meka_at_tilda.center>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM
> > > To: Kris Moore <kris_at_ixsystems.com>
> > > Cc: Emmanuel Vadot <manu_at_bidouilliste.com>; FreeBSD Stable <
> > freebsd-stable_at_freebsd.org>; FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current_at_freebsd.org>;
> > freebsd-pkgbase_at_freebsd.org; freebsd-pkg_at_freebsd.org;
> > freebsd-hackers_at_freebsd.org; freebsd-ports_at_freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote:
> > > > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this.
> > > > It performs updates using Boot-Environments to ensure that
> > > > kernel/world are updated at same time.
> > >
> > > If I'm right, UFS doesn't support boot environments, so how would it
> > work for UFS based installs?
> > >
> > > I personally feel GO is a bit ackward choice of language for something
> > that practically should be part of base. At least I would expect OS
> > update/upgrade not to require any external package.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > meka
> > >
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> > Rod Grimes
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> >

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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes_at_freebsd.org