On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:59:23PM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote: > Konstantin Belousov wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 07:30:54PM +0200, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 12:28:51AM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote: > >> > I have been working on a Linux compatible copy_file_range(2) syscall > >> > (the current code can be found at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D20584). > >> > >> > One outstanding issue is how it should deal with signals. Right now, I > >> > have vn_start_write() without PCATCH, so that it won't be interrupted > >> > by a signal, but I notice that vn_write() {ie. write syscall } does > >> > have PCATCH on vn_start_write() and so does vn_rdwr() when it is > >> > called without IO_NODELOCKED. > >> > >> A regular write() is only interruptible when writing to a terminal, > >> pseudo-terminal master, pipe, socket, or, under certain conditions, a > >> file on an NFS intr mount. Therefore, applications may not have the code > >> to resume interrupted writes to regular files gracefully. > Yes, agreed. Since this syscall only works on VREG vnodes, the only weird cases > are NFS (and maybe fuse). I'll let asomers_at_ address the fuse situation. > > >> > >> > I am thinking that copy_file_range(2) should do this also. > >> > However, if it returns an error, it is impossible for the caller to > >> > know how much of the data range got copied. > >> > >> A regular write() returns partial success if interrupted by a signal > >> when it has already written something. Therefore, the application can > >> resume the operation by adjusting pointers and counts. > >> > >> Something similar applies to "deterministic" errors like [EFBIG] where > >> the first call will write as far as possible (if this is not nothing) > >> successfully and the next attempt will return the error. > >> > >> > What do you think the copy_file_range(2) code should do? > >> > >> I'm not sure it should actually be done, but the need for adjusting > >> pointers and counts could be avoided with a little extra kernel and libc > >> code. The system call would receive an additional argument pointing to > >> an off_t that indicates how many bytes previous calls have already > >> written. A libc wrapper would initialize this to 0. With this, the > >> system call can be restarted automatically after a signal. > >> > >> In any case, [EINTR] and the internal ERESTART must not be returned > >> unless it is safe to repeat the call with the same (direct) arguments. > Well, since the copy_file_range(2) syscall is allowed to return fewer bytes copied > than requested and this doesn't mean EOF, it seems that doing that would > achieve the result of allowing an application to call it again. > (Basically, it must be used in a loop until the bytes of the range have been copied, > since returning fewer bytes copied than requested is a normal outcome.) > > >BTW, if the syscall is made interruptible, it should be made cancellable ? > Not sure what you mean by "cancellable"? If you mean "terminated by a signal > where there has been no change to the output file, then that could only easily be > done by returning EINTR before any data has been copied. > If you mean something else, then I'd need to know what that is? See pthread_setcancelstate(3) for start, but the POSIX 1003.1-2017 2.9.5 Thread Cancellation is the definitive spec, including the quite readable overview. > > >I think that PCATCH commonly used for vn_start_write(9) is not the best > >decision. It is safe in the sense explained by Jilles, since its interruption > >only happens at the very beginning of the syscall, but it contradict to the > >tradition of write(2) to the local fs being not interruptible. > > > >I suggest to not make the syscall interruptible by default, and perhaps > >only allow it with a flag. Then you would need to explain that the > >syscall is only interruptible between VOPs, it is up to fs to decide if > >the VOP_READ/VOP_WRITE is interruptible (e.g. devfs and nfs). > This is how it is coded now. The one thing I have noticed is that a > copy_file_range() can take a long time (about 2min for 2Gbytes on the old hardware > I test on). This seems like a long delay for <crtl>C when you do that to an application > copying a large file. ("cp" and "dd" also take 2min for 2Gbytes, so it isn't a bug > in copy_file_range(2). It just introduces a long delay in response to <crtl>C.) That long delay is inconvenience but not something that we should spent too much time trying to fix. We cause the same delay if program does a write(2) of several GB, or when very large process like firefox dumps core.Received on Fri Jul 05 2019 - 19:13:19 UTC
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