On June 19, 2019 9:53:12 AM PDT, Ian Lepore <ian_at_freebsd.org> wrote: >On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 09:30 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> > In message < >> > fffbe5d47e3515c960429ab416bf2ba234f9671d.camel_at_freebsd.org> >> > , Ian Le >> > pore writes: >> > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 07:01 -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: >> > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:59, Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya_at_gmail.com >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:53, Ian Lepore <ian_at_freebsd.org> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > ... >> > > > > >> > > > > > Last Saturday, Bryan (cc'd) made a series of commits >> > > > > > (r349061-69) >> > > > > > that >> > > > > > were all somehow related to dependency processing in the >> > > > > > build. I >> > > > > > don't know the details, just remember seeing some commits >> > > > > > about >> > > > > > that. >> > > > > >> > > > > I remember that as well. This might have changed the >> > > > > dependency >> > > > > order subtly, introducing a race. >> > > > > >> > > > > The headers might not be built in all cases in time now. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > -Enji >> > > > > >> > > > > PS This is one of the reasons why I wasn???t quick to >> > > > > discount Peter >> > > > > Jeremy???s reported build issue. >> > > > >> > > > Correction: I meant Julian Stacey. >> > > >> > > Julian Stacey has 3 problems: >> > > >> > > 1. Missing opt_cam.h >> > > 2. Missing yacc.h >> > > 3. A years-long inability to report a problem without hurling >> > > personal >> > > insults at the project and everyone associated with it. >> > > >> > > Because of #3, I don't much care about 1 and 2. >> > >> > Bingo! My point exactly! >> >> You can't understand the frustration of 25 years of >> having system build breakage on a pretty regular basis >> as a trigger point for anger? >> > >I understand how inappropriate it is for a project member to condone or >excuse the verbal abuse of other project members. > >Somone with anger management problems likely shouldn't be running >current, where a certain amount of short-term breakage is normal and >expected. > >-- Ian I do not think what you said was abusive. As a matter of fact you said what I had said in a previous email, just more directly than I chose to say it. Having to deal with a difficult person or two in real life personally, sometimes the only answer is "do it yourself." A little respect goes a long way. -- Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use. Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert_at_cschubert.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy_at_FreeBSD.org> Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.Received on Wed Jun 19 2019 - 15:25:29 UTC
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